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Old 10-02-2007, 08:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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If your website is designed around specific uncommon keywords, then be very careful when using anchor text based links and forum signature blocks.

The reason is simply the more pages you add your keyword(s) too the more competition you are making for yourself, which in itself is slightly amusing.

It is very easy to use an anchor text that do not contain your main keywords.

For websites that have common keywords it is less of an issue but something people should be aware of.
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Old 10-05-2007, 12:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Thanks for advice it serves as a warning especially for beginners...
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Old 10-05-2007, 12:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Nice tip. Thanks for sharing..........
Very helpful for beginners.
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Old 10-05-2007, 12:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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another pointer to remember...
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Very interesting...I never thought about that...I guess my signature doesn't really help....
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If your website is designed around specific uncommon keywords, then be very careful when using anchor text based links and forum signature blocks.

The reason is simply the more pages you add your keyword(s) too the more competition you are making for yourself, which in itself is slightly amusing.

It is very easy to use an anchor text that do not contain your main keywords.

For websites that have common keywords it is less of an issue but something people should be aware of.
Ok, well you posted it & now I am forced to rebuttal seeing that you have everyone on this thread so far thinking that anchoring text with primary keywords is bad if they have more than one page focusing on similar keywords in accordance to content Vs. Keyword Density & meta arrangements.

First off, I would like to say that i have over 3,000+ pages on my site & I add 1-5 more pages every week (If not more). My Primary Dept. is Marketing Consulting with a secondary Dept. in Web Design (In complements of the Primary). With over 3,000+ pages I am sure you can assume that the majority of them are all related to the same types of keywords in order to keep the entire site ON TOPIC, in its entirety.

As far as 1 page competing with 1,000 other pages on my site, thats fine with me, at least one will be in the serps for the main phrase while the others will list for long tail phrases (Just as important).

The thing to keep in mind here is that you can control how the pages will rank in the Serp's amongst each other with the Inbound Anchor text.

Example: lets say I have 5 pages with the same keyword focuses, such as Part's 1-5 in a tutorial study. Even though they focus on the same keywords, I can place anchored text (Linked) Only to Part 1 - Thus mathematically calculating in the algorithm as the best possible Serp's page due to prominent link juice (Inbound anchored text links).

People who found page 2 or 4 as a good reference to a small portion may anchor a text link to that page using a none keyword text phrase - Thus allowing that page the opportunity to rank in the Serp's for a separate term all together.

While keywords DO play a major roll in SEO, you must keep in mind that anchor text can & WILL manipulate a Serp's listing if enough Links are found by a Search Engine Algorithm to Mathematically Calculate that Page as being important for that particular term to "X" amount of people (more than your competitors particularly).

To support this claim, Please type "Click Here" in the Google search engine. The #1 listing should be an Adobe page. Now click that Adobe page.. Guess what? the term "Click Here" is not even used once on that page. Just goes to show that enough inbound anchors can & WILL make a difference!

In a sense, each page (Even with the same keyword focus) is a Unique portal / Doorway for others to link to in order to validate or provide supporting reference to one of their own viewers in a related topic or article. (Hinse content being King = organic Inbound Links "With or without Anchors")

Keep in mind that you can also place a link somewhere on each page to point back to the main page you want to be dominant, Thus passing some of the Link Juice (Authority) back to it.

I think it would be safer to tell people on this thread simply to make sure you link to the proper page with the proper anchored term. It's that simple.

Just my Opinion, But hey, Who am I compared to Millions that may think different.

I wish you all Luck!
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my thoughts also, I just did a campaign for a client recently with a similar approach and did extremely well.

Its obvious to me your observations and results are from testing, not enough is being done in this area.

I guess in most cases many people don't have enough pages out there to see results and hold back in their approachs.

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If your website is designed around specific uncommon keywords, then be very careful when using anchor text based links and forum signature blocks.

The reason is simply the more pages you add your keyword(s) too the more competition you are making for yourself, which in itself is slightly amusing.

It is very easy to use an anchor text that do not contain your main keywords.

For websites that have common keywords it is less of an issue but something people should be aware of.


Well, you have point on this....nice reminder.
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my thoughts also, I just did a campaign for a client recently with a similar approach and did extremely well.

Its obvious to me your observations and results are from testing, not enough is being done in this area.

I guess in most cases many people don't have enough pages out there to see results and hold back in their approachs.

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Actually with 3,000+ pages I have gone through allot of trial & error. I take a more scientific approach with research & testing, I figure that there is no way to better myself if I don't fully understand why something is happening.

I would Never suggest or preach something to others that I have never done myself with at least some type of supporting documents / research / results to back it up.

I also find humor in watching the blind leading the blind..... Kind of Redundant, On one end of the coin it takes them out of the competitive equation making it just that much easier for me, seeing that they were mislead. And on the other side of the coin, well, I'll leave that to the imagination...

Again, I'm just a normal guy that is far from any Expert status... I learn something new everyday (Mind you I test all of it to make sure its accurate).

This thread I started a while back http://www.v7n.com/forums/marketing-...-good-bad.html Pretty much sums up how to eliminate bad advice prior to even getting involved in testing from the get go....

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