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Old 10-06-2007, 01:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi was wondering...

If you have a site and have allot of spacer images 1 x 1 px (all with same name of course) and you add alt tags with the same keyword to make it as w3c correct as possible. Would a search engine consider it spam / stuffing ? Would it be better to change around the words even tho it's the same 1x1 gif image?
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i believe that if you placed repeated keywords in your alt tags,, that is obviously a spam.....
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Old 10-06-2007, 02:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi was wondering...

If you have a site and have allot of spacer images 1 x 1 px (all with same name of course) and you add alt tags with the same keyword to make it as w3c correct as possible. Would a search engine consider it spam / stuffing ? Would it be better to change around the words even tho it's the same 1x1 gif image?
I have a rather large site & use image alt - Attributes (Not Tags - tags are something completely different).

Ok, heres the deal, either way the image alt attributes will be omitted from any mathematical equation aiding in manipulating a top engine such as Google.

A mathematical algorithm can see that all the images have the same name, by placing a different Keyword or phrase with each Duplicated image, it makes it mathematically obvious that the same image from the same root source can NOT have that many different attributes - Thus leading to the keywords / phrases being omitted & a possible penalty for Image keyword stuffing.

If you use the same keyword alt attribute the mathematical algorithm (Just like duplicated content) will allow 1 to count & omit the rest as duplicates - & there will be NO penalties towards you.

My personal opinion would be to use the same alt attribute keyword or phrase for all the same images & at least get one that counts rather than chance being penalized for image keyword stuffing.

The only other possible solution would be to use a numerical... spacer.gif alt="image name - 1", spacer.gif alt="image name - 2" (The numerical simply represents a different placement for the same image - the image name will be the same for all images) This may aid in more than one alt attribute counting for you & simply calculate in the algorithms mathematical equation as Numerical image positioning / Tracking. ( haven't personally tested this theory long term yet, so try it at your own risk - In theory it makes sense though)

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Thanx for the explanation, makes pretty good sense to me.
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Leave the alt out of images that are not necessary to the presentation of material. Better yet, place them in your stylesheet. Either way there will be no problem with the search engines.
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Leave the alt out of images that are not necessary to the presentation of material. Better yet, place them in your stylesheet. Either way there will be no problem with the search engines.
good idea..
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Old 10-09-2007, 09:44 AM   #7 (permalink)
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maybe its better to limit the number of images with alt attribute in order to be safe. It really looks a lot like spamming if you have too many.
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The alt tags shouldn't be used to repeat keywords but, they should explain what the pic is, and if it's linked a description of where it goes and what's there.

You can include keywords - of course
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