can you get PR witout backlinks?

[paul.martin]

Well, not really without backlinks because you need some backlinks so Google finds you. But let's say you keep those to a minimum and instead you add a lot of quality content on your site (let's just suppose this is true for the question's sake) and Google puts 100,000 of your pages in its index. A theory stated that all indexed pages get PR1 at least. If all your indexed pages point to your main page, can it get PR4-5 mostly all from the links on the same site?

Has anyone tried to experiment on this?

Paul

[businessservicesuk]

Why are people interested in PR?

Obsession with the green bar is a major distraction, SEPRS and visitor trends are far important, why PR is even discussed is a mystery to me.

[Steven_D]

Originally Posted by businessservicesuk

Why are people interested in PR?

Obsession with the green bar is a major distraction, SEPRS and visitor trends are far important, why PR is even discussed is a mystery to me.

Totally agree, I can see no benefit from being a PR7 over being a PR0

I would rather a decent site that sells a product that people need, that manages its conversion, ensures it makes more per advertising campaign than it spends and has high margins with low monthly hosting expenses.

[redspace]

PR is a reference. alexa is a reference. we need reference to better ourself in what we are doing. without reference we don't have target. without target we are moving nowhere.

[Natural Elements]

Originally Posted by redspace

PR is a reference. alexa is a reference. we need reference to better ourself in what we are doing. without reference we don't have target. without target we are moving nowhere.

PR is not a reference, if all sites with high PR are a reference, they will be on the first position on Google result pages. Alexa is really not a reference because their ranking system are based on their own toolbar.

If you go on Google page results for your keywords or keyphrases, you will find your targets in seconds.

[skysoldier]

Originally Posted by Natural Elements

PR is not a reference, if all sites with high PR are a reference, they will be on the first position on Google result pages. Alexa is really not a reference because their ranking system are based on their own toolbar.

If you go on Google page results for your keywords or keyphrases, you will find your targets in seconds.

I think redspace is talking about the people looks a PR as a reference but not saying that Google is making PR as a reference or even Alexa rank.

Some of the people has different techniques and views so some made PR their references but mostly are not!

[potchie]

Originally Posted by businessservicesuk

Why are people interested in PR?

Obsession with the green bar is a major distraction, SEPRS and visitor trends are far important, why PR is even discussed is a mystery to me.

i agree.. though recently Pr updated, i'am more focusing to have more backlinks and traffic.

[paul.martin]

PR is discussed here purely theoretical. Wanting to know more is generally considered a quality.

[Ckrismoney]

Not sure if pr is a major factor but it is a factor that does count.

I have no pagerank for [link removed] my site.

But I do get about 30 to 50 hits from google search per day.

Most of my hits come from my users ads ranking good in google.

But to answer the thread nope I haven't tried that but I think it is worth a try.

[maldives]

Originally Posted by Ckrismoney

Not sure if pr is a major factor but it is a factor that does count.

Googles concerns over paid links indicate they consider PR as a one of the major factor.

[Natural Elements]

I think Paul is new on this forum, and he need some answers.

There are many posts on this subject, keep in mind PR is important for some business online like directories for example. Now if you own a e-commerce or just a website, it really doesn't matter, because the most important are SERPS and traffic.

Backlinks related to your topic are important for your SERPS, traffic come from as you know from different sources.

It really depends on your field, and you will get naturally the PR you deserve by Google.

[divalicious]

Originally Posted by Natural Elements

There are many posts on this subject, keep in mind PR is important for some business online like directories for example. Now if you own a e-commerce or just a website, it really doesn't matter, because the most important are SERPS and traffic.

Backlinks related to your topic are important for your SERPS, traffic come from as you know from different sources.

It really depends on your field, and you will get naturally the PR you deserve by Google.

Nice post! I agree to what you've said. PR is important depending on the field
that you are into given by Google.

[Carter]

I would think that if you have 100,000 pages of good quality info - not just copied articles... that you would naturally get backlinks anyway. People often link to good sites, just as part of the natural process - like, if you like something that someone has written, you might refer to it on one of your sites, or in a forum post.

[Cricket]

You don't need 100,000 pages for that to happen.

[businessservicesuk]

I was alluding to the fact that in forums PR is discussed more than SERPS, in fact probably more than any other subject.

Veiled PR farms (directories) only have an interest in their homepage PR, what about their inner pages? If I linked to 1,000 directories today I would be lucky if Google counted 3 as backlinks. This is simply because they should be have always been built around supplying traffic, not built on smoke and mirrors. Added to that a directories PR is only gained by networking with other directories, that was of course until Mr G pulled the plug.

[redspace]

A reference is a point so we can work on something. why google has this PR system? if that doesn't count for something why waste their and all of our time thinking about something that doesn't bring good to anyone. if alexa is not a tools for reference why invent it in the first place. are google and alexa create this tools so we can make fool of ourself? ranking tools is a reference.

[Natural Elements]

Originally Posted by redspace

A reference is a point so we can work on something. why google has this PR system? if that doesn't count for something why waste their and all of our time thinking about something that doesn't bring good to anyone. if alexa is not a tools for reference why invent it in the first place. are google and alexa create this tools so we can make fool of ourself? ranking tools is a reference.

Redspace,

Everybody want to be a reference on internet, create after a while a monopoly because they want to make money, this is why they want you to think it's a tool.

We all know behind Google, there is Adwords. Some companies spend thousands dollars per month for that.

Behind Alexa, there is Adbrite, some people use this kind of advertising.
Personally, I found the first 100,000 ranks a little credible, that's it. So when they display millions sites with ranking completely off, that's not a tool, that's crap advertising.


businessservicesuk,

If Google has pulled the plug for PR on directories that's hypocritical because these same sites are often loaded with 3 or 4 spots Adsenses. So why pulling a selective plug?

How many directories are just made for Adsenses?

At least, high PR directories with paid links provide a clean site, and high quality sites links.

[Steven_D]

Originally Posted by Natural Elements

At least, high PR directories with paid links provide a clean site, and high quality sites links.

Yeah its just a pity that people don't use web directories to find what they are looking for, they use search engines, so who's on these directories clicking links earning google money? And how many problems arise from low quality link directories?

[Natural Elements]

Originally Posted by Steven_D

Yeah its just a pity that people don't use web directories to find what they are looking for, they use search engines, so who's on these directories clicking links earning google money? And how many problems arise from low quality link directories?

To be honest with you I don't know the low quality directories problems.

[skysoldier]

Originally Posted by Natural Elements

At least, high PR directories with paid links provide a clean site, and high quality sites links.

You said it yourself that at least one with a high PR, it means G somehow counts the content and you can get a PR from a good quality content.