Links manager.

Alan30 · 04-21-2004, 06:50 AM

I have swapped links with a few link manager sites and have noticed none are showing up when I check for back links. Is it a good idea to swap links with link manager sites?

Andy · 04-21-2004, 07:15 AM

It depends on what you mean by "link managers" any link will take a while to show up before it recognised and shown on a backlink check. You need to wait for the next PR/backlinks update.

If by "link managers" you were refering what are commonly called link farms then the answer is no, its probably not a good idea link to them. Many such sites will not pass any kind of PR value to you at all and you are leave you linking into the bad neighborhood.

Cibok · 04-21-2004, 07:50 AM

I think he is talking about this http://www.linksmanager.com/ ??!?!

Andy · 04-21-2004, 08:04 AM

In that case I think the fact that they themselves only have 3 backlinks speaks volumes

ferret77 · 04-21-2004, 09:39 AM

umm, I use links manager on one of sites and the links pages are pr 4

the linksmanger pages pass pr very well , and I think the whole system works very well maybe even too well

I know Its not in best interest to inform people but

I have acheived top ranking exchange links with what some people call link farms

what the hell is a link farm anyway?

Matrix · 04-21-2004, 11:59 AM

Google is not showing up links from there anymore.

ferret77 · 04-21-2004, 12:07 PM

from where?

mazsola · 04-24-2004, 06:00 AM

Just because you can't see it, it doesn't mean Google doesn't consider a certain link.

Alan30 · 04-24-2004, 02:57 PM

I think google does not show links from Links manager sites anymore. Which makes you you think they have no value anymore. I am taking all link manager links down.

ferret77 · 04-24-2004, 03:13 PM

I have 7 backlinks from linksmanger sites in the first 50 backlinks of my site

but hey take the links down

burgi82 · 04-25-2004, 05:58 AM

Hi,
just to inform you guys that linksmanager pages are not some sort of link farms. Linksmanager is simply a link management program, that uploads the links in html format. So, even if people use linksmanager, and I do on all of my sites, the link is placed on a regular html page, no different than exchanging links with pages that don't use linksmanager.
It's all about the PR of the linkspages, and has nothing to do with linksmanager at all!

mazsola · 04-25-2004, 09:19 PM

Linksmanager is only a tool for link exchange. I don't believe there is any search engine penalizing you for using a tool.
Also, just because you don't see a backlink it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Google only shows some, not all links.

greg · 04-25-2004, 09:55 PM

some you have to watch out for, they use dynamic scripting that doesn't always show up as back links when spiders come along. this is the case with about 80% of them because they are run on cheap codes.

Also keep in mind, these sites have sometimes thousands of links on their site. each link, unless properly designed, is devalued to the point that some SEs do not even take the time to list it.

burgi82 · 04-26-2004, 02:44 AM

Linksmanager uses dynamic scripting? Not at all actually! They use plain html pages, but they do give you the chance to rotate your link pages everyday, but that is done by uploading changed links pages everyday, not by some sort of script.
I do agree that some LM people have way too many links in their account. But, there are some ways to make sure that even if you are on page 36 of their links directory, that the site still has PR. Just ask the people to have a link to each page number on the bottom of LM. This is just a feature that they would need to adjust in their LM account, the last setting under link pages control in the custom control menu. Their, one can change the setting to show a link to each page number on the links page. With that properly done, I even found a links category with 140 subpages, and the 140's site still had a PR 2, which is not too bad.

ferret77 · 04-26-2004, 05:00 AM

yeah links manager generates html on their server and then it uploads to yours

their linkspages transfer pr very well

much better then then my homemade dynamic link directory

althought it transfers too

put much better if oyu take the parameter out of the variable

this sort of pissed me off, I don't why google wouldn't transfer visible pr as well to the dynamic page

seoguru · 06-21-2004, 09:49 PM

I think ferrert77 is a big supporter of these link exchange programs.
I do agree they take out a lot of hard work from your Backlink campaign, but when considering these negative consequences, I don`t think its worth taking risk.. I have seen many guys who boasts 500-1000 links one day and second day they are running after everyone asking what to do , google has banned them and their PR is just zero...

So just beware...

But one think I really want to argue... with everyone.. how do I control people who link to me.. If there is a link to my site from some linkfarm, why will google penaltizes me... Yes if I give him a reciprocal link, then I should be consider guilty.

So I think when linking to people, you should first check those sites status in google ...

....................Just my opinion

gizorn · 06-22-2004, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seoguru

how do I control people who link to me...

You can't and I've never heard of any SE penalizing you because a site has linked to you. If that was the case I would of added all my competitors sites on every "bad" page I could find

. You can of course run into trouble with who you link to.

ferret77 · 06-22-2004, 08:04 AM

Quote:

have seen many guys who boasts 500-1000 links one day and second day they are running after everyone asking what to do , google has banned them and their PR is just zero...

Everyone always says stuff like that but they never can provide an example

can you provide and example?

or are you just blowing hot air?

88sahara · 06-22-2004, 08:39 AM

FERRET77, you are absolutely right here, people always say that but have no proof, I don't go out of the box hitting the links pages...but for the first time, my regular approach did not work for a site because all the top 5 sites were heavily linked with anchor text.

So in order to compete I did the same thing, we will see how it works out...but I know for sure that this one category I am targeting, many of the top sites have tons of text links pointing to them as the result of link exchanges.

I don't think anyone is saying link swaps through link manager is the end all, be all, but it should be one of many linking strategies you target.

sweatnspice · 06-22-2004, 08:53 AM

One of my competitors uses Linksmanager and at one point they were showing 300+ backlinks in Google. The two updates ago they dropped to only 30 backlinks. They are still a top competitor, but I'm waiting for this next update to see where they land.