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11-13-2007, 01:16 AM
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Google and Duplicate content a hoax !!
So i have been reading and doing research on Googles algorithms and weather or not google actually has a way to track duplicate content, and what i have come up with is that google does not have any real method to find out where the actual content was originally from. What do you guys think of this, does google have ways to track where the content was originally from?
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11-13-2007, 02:13 AM
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i belive google knows well about the location of original content, for example the first content that google indexd is considered the genuine souce of the context 7 all others are considered as duplicate context.
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11-13-2007, 04:48 AM
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Google can track what the original content is.
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11-13-2007, 07:16 AM
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I think Google tracks the original source by the time a content was made! Am I right?!
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11-13-2007, 09:04 AM
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i think the first one that get indexed first can consider as the original.. what do you think?
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11-13-2007, 09:09 AM
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The process is on the Basis of 'First come First get' ..content which is indexed firstly is the original >> although if some high ranking site copy your content & it might have good position in Ranking!
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11-14-2007, 07:31 AM
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Ooops.. I missed the word indexed! Sorry! but that is what I mean too! 
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11-14-2007, 09:17 AM
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I've got social bookmarks who duplicated my index contents and pictures, well if it is considered like a fair use and Google know where come from the original that's ok with me.
I had in the past some commercial sites who stolen parts of contents articles, this is not the same thing and will not let people stealing the work I paid for.
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11-14-2007, 02:06 PM
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Iīve seen Google showing to identical articles because they were both in two trustworthy sites. Only the navigation and a footer were different. So you better donīt get any trustworthy site copying your site because itīll probably show it and above yours.
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11-15-2007, 08:29 AM
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I agree i don't think google can trace duplicate content, as one of my competitors has 4 sites all with exactly the same content just different domain names and different headers.
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11-17-2007, 09:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by harsha22
Google can track what the original content is.
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I think where the original content comes from...
and first index sites are site that has original contents... 
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11-17-2007, 10:20 AM
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I sometimes buy private label articles. I always rewrite them before I use them.
It is not uncommon for me to search a phrase from those articles. It is also not uncommon for me to find the excact same phase on 8-10 Google listed sites.
When I visit those sites I find that those sites pretty much used the exact article with no modifications. Some of those sites will rate higher than others if I use a keyword only for the seach.
My conclusion, there is no such thing as a "duplicate content penalty". Other factors come into play such as overall PR or whatever else G uses to rate sites.
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11-17-2007, 02:46 PM
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Very interesting, but I'm not sure I'm willing to take the chance, kwim? 
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11-18-2007, 11:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zebnoo
i belive google knows well about the location of original content, for example the first content that google indexd is considered the genuine souce of the context 7 all others are considered as duplicate context.
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The first content that Google indexed does not mean that it is original content.
Take for example a PR 6 site and a PR 1 site. Google may crawl the PR 6 site many times a day, but would only crawl the PR 1 site once a day, in the best case scenario.
If the PR 6 site copies content from the PR 1 site and Google indexes that content first on the PR 6 site, can we trust Google?
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11-20-2007, 04:34 AM
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i was under the impression that you place the link @ the bottom of an article so that google knows who the information belongs to.
eg your articles link to your site
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12-03-2007, 11:28 AM
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I believe other factors are involve to, such as PR.
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12-03-2007, 11:59 AM
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I believe its up to your crawling rate..... the fast you will crawl your content it will be yours....
to avoid it submit it to Google base and copyscope and try to say googlebot to ping your content asap.
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12-03-2007, 12:04 PM
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Google can easily find the original and duplicate contents because the algorithm is made such a way to find out the original content...
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12-03-2007, 12:19 PM
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Duplicate Content is a form of gray hat technique.
Once caught by google, it might drop your pages from google index
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12-03-2007, 12:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by littlephoenix
So i have been reading and doing research on Googles algorithms and weather or not google actually has a way to track duplicate content, and what i have come up with is that google does not have any real method to find out where the actual content was originally from. What do you guys think of this, does google have ways to track where the content was originally from?
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My biggest fear is that someone will believe what you are saying.
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