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Old 01-22-2006, 01:47 PM   #121 (permalink)
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ohkkk ... adding some stuff to what JS posted


Am not includingthe stuff/points already posted by JohnScott in first post

Beginner's Basic Technical Guidelines

These are again very very basic elements of SEO


1. Website Name
Do not keep the website's name too long. A name more than 10 alphabets long is considered to be anti-SEO. Shorter the name, better the ranking.
Try not to keep a non-english(non-dictionary) word as site's name. Try to include your most important keyword (lying at core of your business) in your site's name.
Prefer .com as extension (TLD) inplace of anything else. Especially avoid free TLD's like .tk and also country specific ones, like .in or .uk .
Instead of using a subdomain, prefer using a TLD domain name, 8$ worth your own domain name is worth this mere price.
I have lately observed, that search engines, especially google prefer domain names with '-' , for this clearly distinguishes two different words. I mean www.web-market.com is better for SEO than www.webmarket.com

2. Page Name
Most factors are same as above --- short, meaningful names with probably most important keyword included.
One important thing though --- Say, you have a page for support opions, named support.htm with the full url being ---- www.yoursite.com/support.htm
Then, its much better to keep it like -- www.yoursite.com/support/index.htm instead of the former.

Also, .htm, .html are preferred page extensions as compared to .asp , .php or any other dynamic page extension. Although, its not a big factor these days until sessions and querystrings are not issue .

3. Title
After the page name, then comes the page title.
The title tag is the single most important piece of content for people who search.

Keep it shor, shouldn't have more than 100-120 characters (with spaces), which is roughly 10-12 words.
Begin your title tag with your important keyword, in relevance to that particular page.
Most sites begin their title tags with their company name/brand name . This is a big mistake and don't get into this mess.
If the page is about "cumcumb" product of your company named "ABC services", then "cumcumb, the ________ by ABC services" is much better than "ABC services present, cumcumb, the_________).
Keep the title tag of each page different and relevant to that page.
Avoid using words and phrases like "best, the most, the best site, etc." in your title tags.
Try having different title for all of your pages. (same for meta tags)


3. Meta Tags (JS has already said about these, just some additional points )
Description Meta Tag is now-a-days more important than keywords tag for all major search engines.
Description Meta Tag
This is these days the most important meta tag in your site.
The description tag is not nearly as important as the title. However, it does have some value. Write it as a summary and keep it under thirty words. It should be written in a compelling, clear manner.
Again, don't use phrases like "the best site on internet" etc., rather use targetted words/phrases like "asp scripts, ABC software support etc. on this page"
Keyword Meta Tag:
As a matter of a protocol, you must include this, but don't waste much attention to it. Since, its more or less obselete these days, and has the least importance among almost all factors.
Author and other tags:
Avoid using these tags, since they are of no value to search engines. These tags just add to non-important(search engine point of view) part of your page.
Also, many search bots are designed just so as to go through first few bytes/kilobytes of your page. So, adding these extra tags will just decrease the chances of getting all your meaningful content indexed by bots.

4. Images and Links:
Avoid using Image links, since a serach bot can't read text on an image. Also, do not use images for important headers/headings in your page, rather use normal text.
With each image, include title and alt tags --- meaningful !
Also, include title tag with all your text hyperlinks too.

5. Page Structure -- H1, H2 tags (Again JS has said about them, still adding something to these) :
Search bots always look for these tags in your pages, and treat text between these tags as most important.
Hence, for all your important headers/captions on page, use <h1> , <h2> etc. tags. Wait, don't shout at me -- I know these tags look ugly.
For the purpose of proper display, override these tag settings with CSS like :
<H1 class='yourtextclass'> HeadingOfBlock </H1> , where 'youtrextclas' is CSS class for nice display of apparently ugly HTML tags.


6. Menu Layouts and javascript:
Avoid using javascript driven menus, since most bot programs are unable to comprehend them.
If you want to use such a menu, then also include all your major links in your footer or in the header, making a top-menu row or anything else you want.

There are many other points like :
avoid use of flash, use of session, dynamic applications, keyword density, page size, use of graphics, RSS, feed syndication, link density, inbound/outbound links, different C-class links , use of softwares, site submission etc. Will be posting these shortly.
Above all, try and keep your stuff as organised, unique and clean as you can.


Ummm .. just reckoned of a very point...
Avoid using client side redirection
say for example , you have site www.mysite.com
and your index page redirects to www.yoursite.com/forums/
Then never use client side redirection with javascript or meta tags.
Rather use server side redirection with ASP or PHP for that matter.
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Old 02-07-2006, 08:53 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Avoid using Image links, since a serach bot can't read text on an image.
Um, SE's for the most part read ALT text of image links and it is weighted in the algorithms.
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Old 02-09-2006, 06:37 PM   #126 (permalink)
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great post! And I agree with you. Doing SEO is not that great for other people, as you said. Profitable ideas, I can do myself to get all the cash, and if the ideas suck, why bother.
I'm finding that it doesnt make alot of sense to have someone else seo for you. When your deep in the pool you really need to take care of this yourself. Simply put (I'm agreeing)
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Old 02-11-2006, 12:15 AM   #127 (permalink)
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Old 02-20-2006, 07:09 AM   #128 (permalink)
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www.v7inc.com/tutorial/cpanel_xv2_POP.htm

This URL may include the word "cpanel" and "POP", but it is seperated by an underscore instead of a hyphen, Google cannot parse those keywords.
I think this changed recently at least in some aspects.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=mock+cactus

look at the highlighting for result #2
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I think this changed recently at least in some aspects.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=mock+cactus

look at the highlighting for result #2
Founder, I do not think that highlighting is an indication of algorithmic parsing.



http://www.v7n.com/forums/google-forum/25369-parsing-keywords-run-together.html

Currently running tests on this.
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Founder, I do not think that highlighting is an indication of algorithmic parsing.



http://www.v7n.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25369

Currently running tests on this.
No it's not... but it is indictivite on the direction Google is going with this... that highlighting for example is new... it just started happening about 5 months ago.
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Old 02-21-2006, 10:27 AM   #132 (permalink)
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I think I saw the highlighting a long time ago - year or more. I'll have to look into that...
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LOL. People do charge a ton of money for on-page SEO and for the most part, it's not worth it, IMHO.

Now, if they charge tens of thousands of dollars to build links to your site, that could be justifiable.
Well said John, On page Optimization is very easy now... especially with tutorials like these online for free everywhere! Now off-page optimization, managing Adword campaigns, buzz marketing etc... takes time and I don't work for free

With the introduction of CMS and RSS2html getting fresh fodder (content) on your main page should be a breeze... optimize your pages, build your links, post on big forums - use your sig's effectively like Ania above Smell my diaper (I'd like to see the numbers from this test)

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Founder, I do not think that highlighting is an indication of algorithmic parsing.



http://www.v7n.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25369

Currently running tests on this.
when you type in pr predictor on google:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=pr+predictor

You can see my site: 2 or 3rd, NewDesignWOrld.com

but why is only the PR bit in the the url is highlighted, is it because google can't tell the difference between pr and predcitor as they start the same?
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Oh, if it were only that easy...
It would be great, I could SEO 10 sites in a day and only charge them $1,000 each. That would be $300,000 a month.

Wow, I'd be rich in no time.
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