Wild Speculation?

[DarthMall]

My question may seem obvious, but does anyone actually know how Google's search function works? Is everyone basing their knowledge on trial and error? Is there a Google insider out there who is giving out Google's secrets?

I understand that industry experience is the drive behind the whole SEO concept. Are the big SEO firms in trouble when Google changes its algorithm?

Thanks, I think this topic will lead to some interesting arguments.

[bogs]

google update their algo regularly to avoid leaks..

[cEejay_01]

Originally Posted by DarthMall

My question may seem obvious, but does anyone actually know how Google's search function works?

What do you mean? Are you asking if we know how goolge turned results depending on the given query?

Originally Posted by DarthMall

Is everyone basing their knowledge on trial and error?

We are not basing it on that way but rather use it to improve and test our SEO skills

Originally Posted by DarthMall

Is there a Google insider out there who is giving out Google's secrets?

then there's no need for SEO,.

Originally Posted by DarthMall

I understand that industry experience is the drive behind the whole SEO concept. Are the big SEO firms in trouble when Google changes its algorithm?

I don't think so,. because SEO experts easily adopt with the changes of algorithm

[glocorpweb]

Originally Posted by cEejay_01

What do you mean? Are you asking if we know how goolge turned results depending on the given query?



We are not basing it on that way but rather use it to improve and test our SEO skills


then there's no need for SEO,.


I don't think so,. because SEO experts easily adopt with the changes of algorithm

Nice one... hehe... I like the part "then there's no need for SEO" hehee

[DarthMall]

I was honestly asking these questions.
cEejay_01, I would appreciate some more explanation of your answers. A one line answer that does not form a complete sentence is a waste of everyone's time.

If Google changes daily, then do SEO techniques change daily? I really have no idea as to how long it takes for the industry to react to these changes? Does is take a day, two days, a week to fully understand these changes?

If no one really knows the complexities of the algorithm, then it must be trial and error. Right? How else can you explain this? If I do A, then my site moves up in the results. If I do B, then it goes down. So A must be an important factor. This seems like trial and error to me.

[skysoldier]

Originally Posted by DarthMall

If Google changes daily, then do SEO techniques change daily? Does is take a day, two days, a week to fully understand these changes?

Google's algo does not change daily my friend, Google knows that seo's are around and they are studying how those SEO analyzes and break through their algo. After gathering all the information that they need, then they will start their update. And gathering this information does not only take a day or two but it also take months.

Originally Posted by DarthMall

I really have no idea as to how long it takes for the industry to react to these changes?

If the SEO is an expert, like most of them are in this forum! They will not have a hard time to adopt through the changes that google made.

Originally Posted by DarthMall

If no one really knows the complexities of the algorithm, then it must be trial and error. Right? How else can you explain this? If I do A, then my site moves up in the results. If I do B, then it goes down. So A must be an important factor. This seems like trial and error to me.

On this matter, a trial and error process is one good thing that an SEO has, but like what I've said, if they are experts then you'll be able to adopt in no time with the updates.

[cEejay_01]

Originally Posted by DarthMall

I was honestly asking these questions.
cEejay_01, I would appreciate some more explanation of your answers. A one line answer that does not form a complete sentence is a waste of everyone's time.

Its better to answer in one line with a direct answer than in paragraph but keep on repeating the same thing,. And if you found it as a waste of time then don't waste even a single moment reading my reply,. You're the one whose asking here,. remember that!!!!

Originally Posted by DarthMall

If Google changes daily, then do SEO techniques change daily? I really have no idea as to how long it takes for the industry to react to these changes? Does is take a day, two days, a week to fully understand these changes?

SERP is the one that changes everyday and its because of the competition,
Remember your not the only one optimizing a site,. And being number 1 today not necessarily means you still have that position tomorrow. And changes on everyday SERP not necessarily means google algo changes everyday. This is known as the Google Dance

[coolguy27]

Google also crawls and updates its index every day, so different or more index data usually isn’t an update either. The term “everflux” is often used to describe the constant state of low-level changes as we crawl the web and rankings consequently change to a minor degree. That’s normal, and that’s not an update...

from Source

When new indexing data is pushed out to data centers. From the summer of 2000 to the summer of 2003, index updates tended to happen about once a month. The resulting changes were called the Google Dance. The Google Dance occurred over the course of 6-8 days because each data center in turn had to be taken out of rotation and loaded with an entirely new web index, and that took time. In the summer of 2003 (the Google Dance called “Update Fritz”), Google switched to an index that was incrementally updated every day (or faster). Instead of a monolithic monthly event, the Google would refresh some of its index pretty much every day, which generated much smaller day-to-day changes that some people called everflux.

Over the years, Google’s indexing has been streamlined, to the point where most regular people don’t even notice the index updating. As a result, the terms “everflux,” “Google Dance,” and “index update” are hardly ever used anymore (or they’re used incorrectly ). Instead, most SEOs talk about algorithm updates or data updates/refreshes....

from Mattcutts Blog

[corlock]

an SEO can't do anything whenever Google decided to change its algo...SEO must follow it any means necessary...

[potchie]

Originally Posted by DarthMall

If Google changes daily, then do SEO techniques change daily? I really have no idea as to how long it takes for the industry to react to these changes? Does is take a day, two days, a week to fully understand these changes?

iam against with your reaction.. "high lighted.. " IMO once you rank in SE and lost it. it doesn't mean your old way wasn't effective and change it day by day.. unless you're gone forever..

it's about competition, so if you lost your rankings, study it and plan for another to add up on your old way.. dont change it daily.

[redeemer_spawn]

SEO will always the one to adjust in order to follow google algo.,

[DarthMall]

cEejay_01, Was that so hard?
Your one line answers ARE a waste of time, I'm glad you were able to elaborate.
The forum is for explanations, not one line answers.
That is how you are able to defend your position on a subject, explanations! Understand?

Skysoldier, thank you! Your reply was helpful.

[cEejay_01]

Originally Posted by DarthMall

cEejay_01, Was that so hard?
Your one line answers ARE a waste of time, I'm glad you were able to elaborate.
The forum is for explanations, not one line answers.
That is how you are able to defend your position on a subject, explanations! Understand?

Skysoldier, thank you! Your reply was helpful.

you seems having a hard time understanding one of the thousands SEO questions,.,. one liner is not a waste of time if it tells the exact details,. and a paragraph answer having the same details is really a big waste of time,. Anyway, I hope my 2nd answer was enough for you,.