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Old 02-20-2008, 10:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Is there a good source to learn how to get a good position in Yahoo and MSN??
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Yahoo and MSN obviously use different algorithms than google so this is a very good question.

The study of Yahoo and MSN seo is not nearly as advanced as that of Google. however most of the typical Google best practices will show significant results in MSN and Yahoo.

MSN use to give enhanced placement to new sites and sites with updated content, I think they have dropped the enhancement of new sites for the live search, but it appears that dynamic sites still receive some sort of bump.

The big thing that MSN is wanting to get into lately is more localized search results, so what I would do with competitive keywords is try to work in some location terms throughout your site along with the keywords. If you overload it of course it will likely have a negative effect, but looking at your audience just try to get an idea of where most of them come from and go from there.

Above all like google backlinks are still king. Just make sure you have a ton of inbound links and you will be doing good.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:54 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Yahoo and MSN weed out spam sites (they like businesses that actually have something to sell or a real service). Google goes after the young guys looking for finance, education and entertainment. Google falls for some pretty easy tricks.

Selling something besides ads? it's easy to get top listing in MSN and Yahoo.

MSn loves to sell to women (they know that 75% of online purchases are made by women)


google linkbacks are is myth used by ignorant seo guys.....
It is also a tool by Google to artifically increase adword prices......

don't bother unless you know nothing else....
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Yahoo and MSN obviously use different algorithms than google so this is a very good question.

The study of Yahoo and MSN seo is not nearly as advanced as that of Google. however most of the typical Google best practices will show significant results in MSN and Yahoo.
same here...
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Old 02-20-2008, 06:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
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in my experience when i get a good rankings on google.. automatically i can i have a rankings on MSN & YAhoo... and thats right they use different algo.. i believe they more into on-page...
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Old 02-22-2008, 11:36 AM   #6 (permalink)
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in my experience when i get a good rankings on google.. automatically i can i have a rankings on MSN & YAhoo... and thats right they use different algo.. i believe they more into on-page...

I also experienced that they more on density.IMO
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Old 02-22-2008, 12:18 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Yeah its really differ I experienced it too., some of my keywords works on yahoo and msn but not in google.,
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Just produced better contents and you will rank better in any SEs plus better optimization...
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Contents on both SEs.. Unique and good contents.
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Concentrate on Google, then both Yahoo and MSN's rank will accumulate as well.
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i have found that if you have good content then MSN and Yahoo love you,
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Is there a good source to learn how to get a good position in Yahoo and MSN??
I read an interesting analysis of Google, Yahoo and MSN at :http://www.seohawk.com/seo_articles/...engine_seo.asp

This article will help you understand difference between these search engines, and how do they perform.
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Interesting article very informative.
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Concentrate on Google, then both Yahoo and MSN's rank will accumulate as well.
I'll do that...all my KW rank better in google however it's been a month that those KWs that have a better rank in google don't have better rank in Yahoo and much worst in MSN...I don't know why????
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I'll do that...all my KW rank better in google however it's been a month that those KWs that have a better rank in google don't have better rank in Yahoo and much worst in MSN...I don't know why????
Both Yahoo and MSN rely heavily on IP addess of your website.

If your site is hosted in Germany, then you have slim chances of scoring on top of Yahoo.co.uk and MSN.co.uk

Meanwhile, do let me know your url ?
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Yahoo ignores "nofollow" command...this means that those blogs that uses "nofollow" are still valuable to Yahoo. Leaving comments to those blogs still counts for your Yahoo optimization.
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I've noticed that Google and MSN are highly different in calculating SERP rankings...
Most sites that have decent rankings on Google does not do well in MSN...
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I've noticed that Google and MSN are highly different in calculating SERP rankings...
Most sites that have decent rankings on Google does not do well in MSN...
True, many people are having a hard time to rank in MSN but they are good in google.
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Well, different search engine has different algorithm thats why.
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yeah and its hard to dance with those SE's., your dance maybe applicable to google but not in yahoo and msn and vice versa.,
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