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04-23-2008, 01:34 PM
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Why does that guy rank better when he has less backlinks explained
All I ever hear is numbers numbers numbers.
So and So has this many links, we need this many links, how many links can you get us, buy 100’s of links cheap, get your link on 100 pages, ahhhhhhh.
The numbers game died a few years ago. There’s another line of thinking out there that you might not know about…..
It’s not always "He with the most links" who wins the game……often, "He with the right links" can win the game as well. Really, very often, he with the right 10 links can beat the guy with 1000 of the wrong links - I see it all the time.
I’m sure most of us have looked at search results, and followed it up by checking the backlinks of the top 10 sites….and then scratched our heads and said "Hum….why is that site in the top 10? It only has X amount of links….hum…doesn’t make sense."….I know I used to do that a lot. Upon closer inspection I’ll usually find that the sites with fewer backlinks that rank on the first page of search results have links that are more relevant, or more trusted, or seem to come from the "right places" (trusted industry related sites).
Sure, there’s different ways to play the game of SEO….go for volume of links……or go for Trusted links…..but few go on the angle of "get the right links" and you might not need as many links as you thought you did.
See, a problem with going for volume is that you can’t stop…you and your competitors might be running in a dogs race always trying to get one more link than the other guys….you buy ‘em in volumes…you trade ‘em in volumes, you 3 way ‘em, you site-wide ‘em….you do what ever you can to get your total backlinks up, up, and away….problem with that is, is that you often get links from non-trusted sites (artificial backlink sites), you get them on "links" pages (tossing a sign on your site saying "Google, kick me, I’m an SEO trying to artificially inflate my backlinks), you get them for 200 directories (another Google kick me, I’m an SEO sign), and the more you get, the more you fall, and the more you fall, the more you cry "I must need more, more, more", and the further you slip…..it’s really a bad SEO trap that’s been laid out for you.
Now, getting trusted backlinks is way better….finding sites that have "Real backlinks" (not SEO’d sites)…and getting your links on real pages is really cool….and winning by trust can be done…..until the engines start to say "here’s the neighborhood, but you’re not in it" and wa-la, yea, you’re trusted too….just not by your peers, and your rankings slip again.
Getting a few of the right links, from the right places can be more valuable than getting 100 links from the wrong places.
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04-23-2008, 01:46 PM
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Nice point you've got there...
Quality is truly more valuable than Quantity...
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Originally Posted by iain123
Getting a few of the right links, from the right places can be more valuable than getting 100 links from the wrong places.
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Can you elaborate how and where we can get the right links from the right places??? Thanks...
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04-23-2008, 04:32 PM
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I sure hope this is true because I've got some good quality links recently from definitely the right places. Now I just have to wait and see if they're effective.
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04-23-2008, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by iain123
All I ever hear is numbers numbers numbers.
So and So has this many links, we need this many links, how many links can you get us, buy 100’s of links cheap, get your link on 100 pages, ahhhhhhh.
The numbers game died a few years ago. There’s another line of thinking out there that you might not know about…..
It’s not always "He with the most links" who wins the game……often, "He with the right links" can win the game as well. Really, very often, he with the right 10 links can beat the guy with 1000 of the wrong links - I see it all the time.
I’m sure most of us have looked at search results, and followed it up by checking the backlinks of the top 10 sites….and then scratched our heads and said "Hum….why is that site in the top 10? It only has X amount of links….hum…doesn’t make sense."….I know I used to do that a lot. Upon closer inspection I’ll usually find that the sites with fewer backlinks that rank on the first page of search results have links that are more relevant, or more trusted, or seem to come from the "right places" (trusted industry related sites).
Sure, there’s different ways to play the game of SEO….go for volume of links……or go for Trusted links…..but few go on the angle of "get the right links" and you might not need as many links as you thought you did.
See, a problem with going for volume is that you can’t stop…you and your competitors might be running in a dogs race always trying to get one more link than the other guys….you buy ‘em in volumes…you trade ‘em in volumes, you 3 way ‘em, you site-wide ‘em….you do what ever you can to get your total backlinks up, up, and away….problem with that is, is that you often get links from non-trusted sites (artificial backlink sites), you get them on "links" pages (tossing a sign on your site saying "Google, kick me, I’m an SEO trying to artificially inflate my backlinks), you get them for 200 directories (another Google kick me, I’m an SEO sign), and the more you get, the more you fall, and the more you fall, the more you cry "I must need more, more, more", and the further you slip…..it’s really a bad SEO trap that’s been laid out for you.
Now, getting trusted backlinks is way better….finding sites that have "Real backlinks" (not SEO’d sites)…and getting your links on real pages is really cool….and winning by trust can be done…..until the engines start to say "here’s the neighborhood, but you’re not in it" and wa-la, yea, you’re trusted too….just not by your peers, and your rankings slip again.
Getting a few of the right links, from the right places can be more valuable than getting 100 links from the wrong places.
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So are you venting out of experience?
If getting the right links are that easy, then this game wouldn't be tough.
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04-23-2008, 07:12 PM
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I used to work on quantity, now I am out for quality. Both can be helpful but quality links are much better.
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04-23-2008, 08:27 PM
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Quality site will give you an advantage in getting on top of SERP which is better than quantity.
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04-23-2008, 09:37 PM
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Yeah 10 Quality Links is better than 100 irrelevant links.
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04-23-2008, 10:13 PM
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It is all about quality of links
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04-23-2008, 11:40 PM
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I think he with the most links for a keyword wins the ranking in the make money online business.
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04-23-2008, 11:41 PM
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Quality links and quality contents is better than quantity.
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04-23-2008, 11:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by homebizseo
I think he with the most links for a keyword wins the ranking in the make money online business.
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Like what they said, it's not only the quantity of links but also the quality, if you can produce both of them, then it is a big benefit for your site!
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04-26-2008, 02:41 PM
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quality links on good sites with relevence is allways best 
yeh through experience i have had in past i learned the hard way 
google will punish you for creating mass links with no relevence to your site
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04-27-2008, 08:49 PM
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Some use social site to rank fast at different search engine.
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04-28-2008, 01:25 AM
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it's true that a few quality links has more edge than numerous irrelevant site links.. so better choose your links wisely
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04-28-2008, 01:36 AM
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its in how you supply good content and how well you use your keywords may it be in the contents or through anchor text linking...
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04-28-2008, 02:38 AM
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Why does that guy rank better when he has less backlinks explained
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Because many SEOs give you faulty advice to make you believe a large number of backlinks is the most important thing in SEO only to protect their own secrets. Others just reiterate this advice because they don't know any better.
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04-28-2008, 07:40 AM
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yeh quite true,i have myspace and facebook accounts for my sites and i do get traffic from them
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