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05-01-2008, 01:56 PM
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What is the purpose of PR and how do you increase your PR?
So far most people have told me that PR means absolutely nothing and cannot help out your position in the search engines. If that's the case, why the heck did Google come up with PR in the first place. It seems that most websites that get tons of traffic from Google have a high PR. Also, besides buying an expensive placement on dmoz.org or emailing hundreds of webmasters for a link exchange who never seem to respond, how EXACTLY can I get a high PR for my website? Submitting to free directories doesn't seem to do a whole lot because most directories have a decent PR on their homepage which is not website your link is placed. If somebody can PLEASE help me out on this I will really be thankful.
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05-01-2008, 02:12 PM
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PR is basically just a number that is relative to how important Google thinks your website is. PR may not directly help your search engine rankings, but if you have several high PR websites linking to you then Google thinks that your website must be important to.
Therefore, people tend to want to buy links from high PR websites. In the end, it does make your website more valuable, but will not increase your traffic.
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05-01-2008, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by gregdavidson
So far most people have told me that PR means absolutely nothing and cannot help out your position in the search engines. If that's the case, why the heck did Google come up with PR in the first place. It seems that most websites that get tons of traffic from Google have a high PR. Also, besides buying an expensive placement on dmoz.org or emailing hundreds of webmasters for a link exchange who never seem to respond, how EXACTLY can I get a high PR for my website? Submitting to free directories doesn't seem to do a whole lot because most directories have a decent PR on their homepage which is not website your link is placed. If somebody can PLEASE help me out on this I will really be thankful.
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The answer to your question is through this link...
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Using these (PR) and other factors, Google provides its views on pages' relative importance. Of course, important pages mean nothing to you if they don't match your query. So, Google combines PageRank with sophisticated text-matching techniques to find pages that are both important and relevant to your search. Google goes far beyond the number of times a term appears on a page and examines dozens of aspects of the page's content (and the content of the pages linking to it) to determine if it's a good match for your query.
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That's why Google creates PageRank... 
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05-01-2008, 03:31 PM
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So basically, "it does" help out your search engine placement for searches that are relevant to your website. Especially if you're competing with another website for the exact same thing and they're using the exact same techniques as you. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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05-01-2008, 09:10 PM
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For PR is just a value of your site to Google.
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05-01-2008, 09:26 PM
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Think others told you the truth. PR got no value as per SERP ranking goes.
Its more like a status symbol you can say.
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05-01-2008, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by gregdavidson
So far most people have told me that PR means absolutely nothing and cannot help out your position in the search engines. If that's the case, why the heck did Google come up with PR in the first place. It seems that most websites that get tons of traffic from Google have a high PR. Also, besides buying an expensive placement on dmoz.org or emailing hundreds of webmasters for a link exchange who never seem to respond, how EXACTLY can I get a high PR for my website? Submitting to free directories doesn't seem to do a whole lot because most directories have a decent PR on their homepage which is not website your link is placed. If somebody can PLEASE help me out on this I will really be thankful.
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PR used to mean something when directories were still popular for me, because I was able to make a lot of profit from selling links on my sites, but once google attacked that industry pr became pointless to me.
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05-01-2008, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TravisT
PR is basically just a number that is relative to how important Google thinks your website is. PR may not directly help your search engine rankings, but if you have several high PR websites linking to you then Google thinks that your website must be important to.
Therefore, people tend to want to buy links from high PR websites. In the end, it does make your website more valuable, but will not increase your traffic.
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Thats true. But, if you have good position in SERP, people will choose to visit your blog/website if you have high PR. Personally, PR means a lot. =)
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05-01-2008, 11:31 PM
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PR is just a matter of numbers and and its just a metrics from Google. IN stead of thinking to increase the PR, you could try to increase the no of quality back links, which would help you get good position in SERP for the targeted keyword and will help you gain PR automatically.
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05-02-2008, 06:13 PM
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So basically what you guys are saying is that Google doesn't use pagerank as a small factor when determining who will be #1 for a certain keyword? Then what does this mean?
Google combines PageRank with sophisticated text-matching techniques to find pages that are both important and relevant to your search
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05-02-2008, 07:23 PM
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PR would mean lesser blog review opps too
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05-02-2008, 09:07 PM
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The Link Building process is time consuming and needs lot of efforts. However, the process that involves manual search, manual emails and manual checking, as you have said should be the most effective method. While this requires extended efforts, the benefits are worth it.
Sooner or later, doing this, your PageRank will increase.
About the importance of PR, please note that PR alone is not that important to a web site but it DOES play a very crucial role for a web site to be ranked high.
The importance would depend on your website's purpose. If your websites relies webmasters and advertisers, then PageRank is very important, since they would analyze your website worth basis the PR.
However, for a content website, this might have a less importance.
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05-07-2008, 06:10 AM
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Purpose of page rank is"measuring" its relative importance within the set. The algorithm may be applied to any collection of entities with reciprocal quotations and references. The numerical weight that it assigns to any given element E is also called the PageRank of E and denoted by PR(E).
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05-08-2008, 04:11 AM
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PR simply tells the audience if the site is relevant and contains good content. The higher the PR a better the site in terms of being relevant.
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05-08-2008, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Tripta_Kneoteric
The Link Building process is time consuming and needs lot of efforts. However, the process that involves manual search, manual emails and manual checking, as you have said should be the most effective method. While this requires extended efforts, the benefits are worth it.
Sooner or later, doing this, your PageRank will increase.
About the importance of PR, please note that PR alone is not that important to a web site but it DOES play a very crucial role for a web site to be ranked high.
The importance would depend on your website's purpose. If your websites relies webmasters and advertisers, then PageRank is very important, since they would analyze your website worth basis the PR.
However, for a content website, this might have a less importance.
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Well explained...
Plain and simple: Build quality backlinks related to your site to increase your PR...
PR on SERP: Even though most people are saying that PR has nothing to with SERP, I believe that it does affect SERP ranking even in the slightest form...
Google uses important criteria's in determining SERP rankings...
If PR measures the importance of a particular page then isn't it a good criteria to ponder on...
As for Webmasters and Advertising PageRank is really valuable...
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05-08-2008, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ~DaRk-EyE~
Well explained...
Plain and simple: Build quality backlinks related to your site to increase your PR...
PR on SERP: Even though most people are saying that PR has nothing to with SERP, I believe that it does affect SERP ranking even in the slightest form...
Google uses important criteria's in determining SERP rankings...
If PR measures the importance of a particular page then isn't it a good criteria to ponder on...
As for Webmasters and Advertising PageRank is really valuable...
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Do you any proof of this one,... because Some site increase PR but losing there ranking
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05-09-2008, 01:36 AM
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TravistT is right if you have a high PR you may be easily consider by google and other sites too, pr may sometimes represent how good your site is.
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05-09-2008, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by temyong
Do you any proof of this one,... because Some site increase PR but losing there ranking
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That normally happens, even though some sites have their PR increased, this doesn't mean that they'll have guaranteed top rankings... Like what I've said, there are criterias(algorithm) that google uses to determining SERP rankings and PR is just one of them which means PR alone won't guarantee you high SERP rankings...
I'll repeat it again...
" I believe that it does affect SERP ranking even in the slightest form...
Google uses important criteria's in determining SERP rankings...If PR measures the importance of a particular page then isn't it a good criteria to ponder on..."
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05-09-2008, 07:55 AM
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PR = quality backlinks
SERPS = quality backlinks + other factors...
This shows that PR has somewhat has indirectly effect on SERPs.
And I have seen SEO posters in other forums saying that PR is useless.... Focus on SERPs.
I greatly disagree to those saying that PR is useless...
If it is useless Google must stop using it as measurement in quality backlinks of a site....We know that there are PR obsesses people but we must not say that PR is useless....
PR is still part of Google's algorithm remember that... This topic is one of the great discussions of all times... Repeated over and over again.
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05-10-2008, 08:15 PM
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like coolguy (above) says: I too consider PR a byproduct of good SERP and quality ("relevant") backlinks.
I reached the level of PR 3 when I crossed the 1500 link threshold.
Now that I'm approaching 3000 backlinks, I'm ready to make the next step up!
(did anyone notice that iwebtool's page rank prediction tool's working again--- it is predicting that I'm gonna be a "5" soon --- I'd be more than happy with a "4")
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