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Old 05-13-2008, 11:25 AM   #21 (permalink)
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even if link building is time consuming, it will definitely give out positive results in the end. its probably worth it.
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Old 05-13-2008, 11:53 AM   #22 (permalink)
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SEO must be patient because it is a long process of optimizing your site.
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Old 05-13-2008, 01:29 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Link building is very important but… without GOOD CONTENT nobody will link to your site and links from SE and Directories alone is not enough to get to the top.

Content will make you free! Here is the proof.
2 month old site, no backlinks, page #1 in Google.
Try Google for: alexa sucks proof
and look for middlefingeraward.com

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Old 05-13-2008, 02:15 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Link building is very important but… without GOOD CONTENT nobody will link to your site and links from SE and Directories alone is not enough to get to the top.

Content will make you free! Here is the proof.
2 month old site, no backlinks, page #1 in Google.
Try Google for: alexa sucks proof
and look for middlefingeraward.com

Any questions?


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A website without content is not a website at all...
The term "alexa sucks proof" for middlefingeraward.com is not on page#1 anymore...
Its on page#2, rank-12...
It moves down to the second page, what do you think is the reason???
Well, the site has no BACK LINKS to stabilize its position...
Like what I've said in my previous post On Page and Off Page factors should go hand in hand with each other....
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Old 05-13-2008, 02:30 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I see it on page #1 (probably we’re getting results from different data centers)

But that’s not my point.
Google will pick-up content before links simply because it set that way.
Any SE, you name it, would look for keywords first and then where they are coming from. Keywords give weight to search result and not backlinks and if your site doesn’t provide keyword rich content then no amount of links will compensate your SE visibility.


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Old 05-13-2008, 02:37 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Because the search engines want to know how popular you are.
It's like having a nice billboard at the end of a dead end street.
Would be hard to find!
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Old 05-14-2008, 07:46 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Old 05-14-2008, 11:33 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I see it on page #1 (probably we’re getting results from different data centers)

But that’s not my point.
Google will pick-up content before links simply because it set that way.
Any SE, you name it, would look for keywords first and then where they are coming from.

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Yeah, maybe we're just seeing results from different data centers...
Also agreed in your statement that content set the way...

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Keywords give weight to search result and not backlinks and if your site doesn’t provide keyword rich content then no amount of links will compensate your SE visibility.
But I definitely disagree on this one...
Writing keyword rich content really place a big part in achieving our SEO goals but if your saying that backlinks does not give weight to search results then you better think again...
Backlinks are important for SEO because some search engines, especially Google, will give more credit to websites that have a good number of quality backlinks, and consider those websites more relevant than others in their results pages for a search query.

I'll repeat it to you for the third time...
On Page and Off Page factors should go hand in hand with each other...
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But I definitely disagree on this one...
http://www.v7n.com/forums/856109-post24.html

and then tell me how is that happened





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and then tell me how is that happened

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"alexa sucks proof" is not a competitive keyword at all...
Middlefingerward might rank on the first page due to low competitors but not for long...
I just checked the Google SERP today and I've seen that this thread is now #1 for that term...
See we didn't even planned to rank V7n.com for that keyword but it ranked naturally...
And who would have want to rank with those keywords anyways(is there money on it)...
Try to compete for highly competitive keywords such as real estate or cars, I'm sure you'll gonna end up on the bottom of SERP with no backlinks to support your site for those keywords...
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It is because the search engines are built on that.. it's like a popularity contest, much like high school.
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"alexa sucks proof" is not a competitive keyword at all...
Middlefingerward might rank on the first page due to low competitors but not for long...
Ok, I buy that but then ...
Middle Finger - 3,000,000 results, page #5



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Old 05-15-2008, 02:29 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Ok, I buy that but then ...
Middle Finger - 3,000,000 results, page #5
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Were not talking about the keyword "Middle Finger" in here...
I'm referring to MiddleFinger website with the keyword "alexa proof sucks"...
Finding loopholes???
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Were not talking about the keyword "Middle Finger" in here...

Wrong. We are talking about 2 month old site without backlinks that come in search results on top.
Middle Finger just another example if alexa is not good enough for you.

What are you trying to prove anyway? Or you just went alone for a ride.
I you have point to make then do it, if not, then go back to watching cartoones


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Old 05-15-2008, 09:29 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Link building is a time consuming process or somewhat expensive....



More on this link --> Why is Link building more crucial than creating contents?
that' right, that's why the most needed virtue in SEO is Patience...
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No, I disagree. I still think that creating GOOD content is more crucial that link building because if you have a good content, links will come without any effort.
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Old 05-16-2008, 03:41 AM   #37 (permalink)
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No, I disagree. I still think that creating GOOD content is more crucial that link building because if you have a good content, links will come without any effort.
but how long will you wait before the links to come??? what if you had a good content, then you didn't do anything??? how will the people see it??? are you sure that if you have a new content you'll get crawled by google??
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Link building is more crucial because it gives more visibility to your site converted into profit.
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Wrong. We are talking about 2 month old site without backlinks that come in search results on top.
Middle Finger just another example if alexa is not good enough for you.
Yes, we are talking about Middlefingeraward.com's SERP status for the term "alexa sucks proof" but not for the keyword "Middle Finger" that misleads this argument... How many times do I have to say this?
I don't care about Alexa, its nothing but CRAP! ...
You just inserted the term "Middle Finger" to find loopholes on our previously discussed term "alexa sucks proof", but to no avail...
I think you have some amnesia my friend cause here is what you said:
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Content will make you free! Here is the proof.
2 month old site, no backlinks, page #1 in Google.
Try Google for: alexa sucks proof
and look for middlefingeraward.com
alexa sucks proof not Middle Finger...

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What are you trying to prove anyway? Or you just went alone for a ride.
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What I'm trying to prove is that content without backlinks won't get the job done... A well optimized content with supporting quality backlinks is the best thing to have...

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I you have point to make then do it, if not, then go back to watching cartoones
I've already proven my point...
You should be the one who should go back to the DOG HOUSE where you came from and eat some DOG FOOD to enhance your logic and understanding...
Sorry time over, I don't wanna continue a discussion with a DOG who's only good at BARKING!

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The only point you have proved, that you have no idea what you are talking about which after you post, I have no doubts in my mind become obvious to others






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