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Old 05-08-2008, 08:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Two schools of thought exist in the SEO industry. The SEO copywriters and the Link Mongers. For reasons put forth here, the Link Mongers will always win in the SERPs.
I've encountered this link the other day.. And I like all what Sir John have said regarding the two schools of SEO. And I'm one of the Link Mongers. Lol.

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If I'm not mistaking, it seems like this article want to address that link building is much effective than content optimization in terms of achieving a decent SERP ranking...
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Having content is certainly crucial, but in the end links often rule the day. You can have a site show up in the SERPS without ever touching the pages. "Miserable Failure" ring a bell?
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I know it has been a great debate which one is effective in SEO: the article says, contents vs links? I agree in this article. Probably even we have a well written site but if it is not promoted properly, and getting no links coming/going out then i can say that you just only wasting your time
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I read the article, and its my humble opinion that it takes a combination of BOTH: you need onsite SEO and off-site SEO, to win on the SERPs.
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Old 05-11-2008, 11:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
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yes both on page and off page.. i believe if you done well on on-page..its easy for you to go on off page..
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I've encountered this link the other day.. And I like all what Sir John have said regarding the two schools of SEO. And I'm one of the Link Mongers. Lol.

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I've forgotten how much I have learned from John Scott over the years, until I go back and see some of his older articles, and then see how similar they are to articles I find myself writing these days on his SEO blog.
http://blog.v7n.com/2008/05/11/does-...gerank-matter/
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I believe it's both...because both are important in taking part in SEO.
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A quality keyword ranking came from quality links and not all in content a site without black links will struggle at the sandbox..I think.
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Having content is certainly crucial, but in the end links often rule the day. You can have a site show up in the SERPS without ever touching the pages. "Miserable Failure" ring a bell?
Well said, I always find my sites showing up in serps without me doing any work at all, its more about the keyword's I use in my content.
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Well said, I always find my sites showing up in serps without me doing any work at all, its more about the keyword's I use in my content.

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It's entirely possible to rank with very little onsite optimization. I've done work for clients that had flash sites, and it is MUCH more difficult but still doable.

So, I'd have to be in the link mongering side too.
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thanks, i liked that article... maybe those people who claim that PR is dead are misleading us so that they can practice it for themselves.
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exactly. nice way of observing it mr.heatman07!
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Seems fairly straight forward, although one tops the other both are important.

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Well it would be a lot better if you have both... But if I would be given a chance to choose which to prioritize first, I'll go with Link Mongers...
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