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Old 06-19-2008, 10:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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question about flash & seo

can anyone please give me some advice on my website
westwoodnetlease.com

i just want to know if there is a way to write the code so that the spider sees the flash at end of page even though i have flash presentation at the top of the page

Question 2 is , will the amount of flash I have hurt me in any way in the search engines

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Old 06-19-2008, 10:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I am not sure about the code, but its 100% experimented that Flash is Antiseo.
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Old 06-19-2008, 11:05 AM   #3 (permalink)
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i was told these days SE's can read it though
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Old 06-19-2008, 11:09 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Will you please give me url where you read this?
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Old 06-19-2008, 11:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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read here, may this could work

http://www.searchengineworkshops.com...les/flash.html
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Old 06-19-2008, 11:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
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thanks, nice read, interesting
however, i still wonder how it effects the site, like the load up time, please give me your honest opinion on my site. www.westwoodnetlease.com , it's a small flash at top, do you think that effects robots coming to site at all, or will effect page PR or hurt me in ANY way?
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Dont worry about losing PR. It will not harmed you in that aspect.

Luckily Google able to extract text flash(thats good right?). And as long as you dont have a flash website(50-100% flash based), it still good. As i see your site, i believe that its fine. Dont worry about it, what you should be worry about is being penalize in google regarding duplicate content issue...

Check your domains:
http://www.1031-nnn-properties.com/
http://westwoodnetlease.com/

Is this both yours?
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I looked at the site through an seo text browser and it is reading your text fine. From my experience flash headers similar to yours do not harm your site seo wise in any way.

However looking at your sites structure and coding I would recomend other things that could be done to increase your rankings.
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yes it can, but a way of a code.. lolx.
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Here is an explanation why flash are bad..

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum21/2832.htm

You can optimize Flash, there's a method for it...

http://www.seochat.com/c/a/Search-En...earch-Engines/


Also here are some information on the best uses of flash:

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogsp...-of-flash.html
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morph07, yes both sites are mine with 301 direct, i've been banned in yahoo also and i used to rank great in google and now i'm not, can you PLEASE tell me what i should do in order to fix this problem, no one has been able to give me direction. Also once it's fixed how do i contact yahoo, i don't even show up in their search for ANY phrase.
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morph07, yes both sites are mine with 301 direct, i've been banned in yahoo also and i used to rank great in google and now i'm not, can you PLEASE tell me what i should do in order to fix this problem, no one has been able to give me direction. Also once it's fixed how do i contact yahoo, i don't even show up in their search for ANY phrase.
i see. but it seems that your redirection is not yet complete..

when i type http://www.westwoodnetlease.com the http://www.1031-nnn-properties.com/ shows. Redirect first http://www.westwoodnetlease.com and http://www.1031-nnn-properties.com to http://westwoodnetlease.com. When i type your title in google, the old domain shows up, it means that google treat your old domain more important than the new one. Correct your 301 redirects first.

I dont think you've been banned in Yahoo or in Google since your site was still indexed by them. What i think lacking in your site is backlinks. You only have 20+ of them in yahoo which was bad for a domain 3 years old. Get a decent number of backlinks...
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I read somewhere that search engine read the content in flash also.
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It is very difficult to do SEO for flash website, very low chances of getting rankings on targeted keywords.
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I read somewhere that search engine read the content in flash also.
Google bot can read text in flash to be precise... Im not pretty sure if Yahoo! does
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It is very difficult to do SEO for flash website, very low chances of getting rankings on targeted keywords.
I have produced #1 results for full flash sites...
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well, let's make it a bit simpler, for usability issues, flash are not advisable especially for some pcs that needs to install flash players...

Second, flash may slow websites...

To optimize flash banners, just put alt attributes, or just use gif instead of flash
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can anyone please give me some advice on my website
westwoodnetlease.com

i just want to know if there is a way to write the code so that the spider sees the flash at end of page even though i have flash presentation at the top of the page

Question 2 is , will the amount of flash I have hurt me in any way in the search engines

thanks for advice
I've read about flash add-ons about this matter, and when you install it creates a flash document out of your flash website so whenever the robots crawl your flash website it also crawl the html version of it.
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Those banners could be done as gifs
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there's also one method so that you can add content for a full pledged flash site, but I'm not sure if it still helps. its like the <noscript>Content</noscript> used to help browsers that couldn't run Java scripts. I can't remember the script but I think is like that.

Well, there are full flash sites that still ranks, and this might be because the backlinks are strong.
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