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06-16-2004, 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by sfxmystica
Submitted as :
URL : http://www.must-have-software.net/
Title : Must Have Software
Description : Software guide has product reviews and ratings of PC software. Features forum, section to download freeware.
Category : United States > New > Computing > Software > Buyers Guides
Should be listed in a week or so, after appropriate corrections (if any). |
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Pimpen2010, your site was rejected and will NOT be listed in the ZEAL directory. The reason specified by the editor was that your site is of 'commercial' nature. I sought clarification and this is what the editor said:
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There are a bevvy of commercial and affiliate links on this site, and only 8 capsule reviews, a few of which are nearly useless (it's pretty reductive to not even mention feature changes in reviews of huge pieces of software like MS Word or Photoshop). Also, it's not really clear why whomever's reviewing this software is qualified to do so - or, fwiw, whether they're just pasting brochure copy into reviews.
For example, the topmost review is a wildly laudatory review of DVD Wizard Pro. Scroll down, and there's an "UPDATE" that mentions that the reviewer has finally tried the software...after writing the review.
Editors have the right to refuse sites that, in their assessment, are a violation of community guidelines.
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If you believe that the editor has misjudged the purpose of your site, send me a clarification and I'll forward it to him/her.
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06-16-2004, 03:43 AM
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Afraid your site can't be listed. It appears to have no content and is still under construction. Directories like ZEAL and DMOZ place heavy emphasis on good, quality content.
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Originally Posted by ZEAL Guidelines
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I would advise you to get your site fully up before submitting it to any directory.
Best of luck with your site.
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06-16-2004, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by sfxmystica
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Originally Posted by unrealfragmaster
www.gameplayzone.com
Latest gaming news, reviews and previews.
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One of the selection criteria is :
--> Feature working links, not be under construction, and load in a reasonable amount of time.
I am afraid your 'PC section' features a broken link for 'Game Making Tutorial'.
Please correct it and inform me. |
That error has been corrected. The "Game Making Tutorial" link now works on every page in the "PC" section. |
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06-16-2004, 07:07 AM
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what's the skinny on mine?
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06-16-2004, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by sfxmystica
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Originally Posted by Pimpen 2010
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Originally Posted by sfxmystica
Submitted as :
URL : http://www.must-have-software.net/
Title : Must Have Software
Description : Software guide has product reviews and ratings of PC software. Features forum, section to download freeware.
Category : United States > New > Computing > Software > Buyers Guides
Should be listed in a week or so, after appropriate corrections (if any). |
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Bad News:
Pimpen2010, your site was rejected and will NOT be listed in the ZEAL directory. The reason specified by the editor was that your site is of 'commercial' nature. I sought clarification and this is what the editor said:
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Originally Posted by ZEAL editor
There are a bevvy of commercial and affiliate links on this site, and only 8 capsule reviews, a few of which are nearly useless (it's pretty reductive to not even mention feature changes in reviews of huge pieces of software like MS Word or Photoshop). Also, it's not really clear why whomever's reviewing this software is qualified to do so - or, fwiw, whether they're just pasting brochure copy into reviews.
For example, the topmost review is a wildly laudatory review of DVD Wizard Pro. Scroll down, and there's an "UPDATE" that mentions that the reviewer has finally tried the software...after writing the review.
Editors have the right to refuse sites that, in their assessment, are a violation of community guidelines.
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If you believe that the editor has misjudged the purpose of your site, send me a clarification and I'll forward it to him/her.
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I have more then 8 reviews. Most reviews are being re-written with the new site.
What does he mean feature changes? From previous versions?
DVD Wizard Pro is first because it goes in alphabetical order, not sure how he didn't notice that  And that was a review from a friend, so then I tried it myself and added the update...?
How is this a commercial site? The links and ad is to pretty much run the site? I don't sell anything, and I don't sell any services or anything at all. |
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06-16-2004, 11:29 AM
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SFX, there is no need for you to submit my site, as have submitted it myself :-)
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06-17-2004, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Pimpen 2010
I have more then 8 reviews. Most reviews are being re-written with the new site.
What does he mean feature changes? From previous versions?
DVD Wizard Pro is first because it goes in alphabetical order, not sure how he didn't notice that And that was a review from a friend, so then I tried it myself and added the update...?
How is this a commercial site? The links and ad is to pretty much run the site? I don't sell anything, and I don't sell any services or anything at all. |
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I forwarded your questions again to the Zeal editor who rejected your site. This is what he had to say :
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>What does he mean feature changes? From previous versions?
Yes, that's what I meant.
>I have more then 8 reviews. Most reviews are being re-written with the new site.
My count was 16 when I looked this morning, as I posted then.
>DVD Wizard Pro is first because it goes in alphabetical order, not sure how he didn't notice that.
Sorry if there was confusion about my comment, in which I'd meant to focus on the review's content compared to other reviews. Not how they were ordered. Sorry.
>How is this a commercial site? The links and ad is to pretty much run the site? I don't sell anything, and I don't sell any services or anything at all.
Again, it was my assessment that there are a lot of commercial links here, and that the site is in violation of our guidelines on commercial content, to which I've linked in my previous post. I still feel strongly that my original response was correct.
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I am afraid that's the end of it. (Since you are redesigning your website, you might want to consider all these aspects and issues.)
--> Congrats on becoming a Mod! Best of luck at the job ...
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06-17-2004, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by raciviusdawn
what's the skinny on mine?
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I am the afraid 'Affiliate' page and all the other Affiliate links on the site make it clear that your site 'leans' on the commercial side. As such, your site is unsuitable for ZEAL since only non-commercial sites are listed in it.
Advice you to get a paid listing at Looksmart
For a free listing try in WOW Directory or in Netscape ODP
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06-17-2004, 06:41 PM
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Could you try www.CyngoSeek.com for me please?
Title: CyngoSeek, The Web Directory for Webmasters (or CyngoSeek Web Directory)
Description: Provides webmasters with links for work and fun.
Category: Home > United States > New > Computing > Internet > Using the Web > Web Directories > User-Submitted ( http://zeal.com/category/preview.jhtml?cid=1145675 )
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My posts were too dang barren, so this got thrown in to take up a little bit of space.
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06-17-2004, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sfxmystica
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Originally Posted by Pimpen 2010
I have more then 8 reviews. Most reviews are being re-written with the new site.
What does he mean feature changes? From previous versions?
DVD Wizard Pro is first because it goes in alphabetical order, not sure how he didn't notice that And that was a review from a friend, so then I tried it myself and added the update...?
How is this a commercial site? The links and ad is to pretty much run the site? I don't sell anything, and I don't sell any services or anything at all. |
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I forwarded your questions again to the Zeal editor who rejected your site. This is what he had to say :
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>What does he mean feature changes? From previous versions?
Yes, that's what I meant.
>I have more then 8 reviews. Most reviews are being re-written with the new site.
My count was 16 when I looked this morning, as I posted then.
>DVD Wizard Pro is first because it goes in alphabetical order, not sure how he didn't notice that.
Sorry if there was confusion about my comment, in which I'd meant to focus on the review's content compared to other reviews. Not how they were ordered. Sorry.
>How is this a commercial site? The links and ad is to pretty much run the site? I don't sell anything, and I don't sell any services or anything at all.
Again, it was my assessment that there are a lot of commercial links here, and that the site is in violation of our guidelines on commercial content, to which I've linked in my previous post. I still feel strongly that my original response was correct.
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I am afraid that's the end of it. (Since you are redesigning your website, you might want to consider all these aspects and issues.)
--> Congrats on becoming a Mod! Best of luck at the job ...
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It's only one link so I'm not gonna fight for it. BUT, I have 33 reviews and in no way is this a commercial site. Everysite has links to external sites, why can't mine 
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06-18-2004, 04:05 AM
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Why do you always quote your text sfx?
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06-18-2004, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by unrealfragmaster
Why do you always quote your text sfx?
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As a web designer I always think on how to present information with a visual appeal while also considering the usability aspect.
Long texts should always be left aligned, as then the user does not have to work harder to search where the next line begins (as in the case of a center aligned text). Since this forum uses center alignment for its post, I feel that I increase the usability of my posts by putting the text in a smaller area (the quote box).
I also feel the quote box adds visual appeal ... though the bright background does dampen the usability aspect a bit (dark blue text colour does help, but I am lazy to add the codes ...)
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06-18-2004, 07:11 AM
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I find it confuding sometimes in long posts. You quote other people, then quote yourself, and it can be annoying trying to find your post. Quoting is meant to be for other people, and so your reply then stands out as being non quoted.
Also in the post above, it looks like you are quoting from another website, as if you have all these replies saved or copied from online 
And this forum is left aligned. The text lines with the left margin, By quoting, you are just doing the same but putting it in a little box in the middle of the page. |
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06-18-2004, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by sfxmystica
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Originally Posted by raciviusdawn
what's the skinny on mine?
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I am the afraid 'Affiliate' page and all the other Affiliate links on the site make it clear that your site 'leans' on the commercial side. As such, your site is unsuitable for ZEAL since only non-commercial sites are listed in it.
Advice you to get a paid listing at Looksmart
For a free listing try in WOW Directory or in Netscape ODP
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Here is a quote from the Zeal Guidelines:
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Sites that do not offer goods or services but whose main purpose is to direct users to such goods or services may also be considered commercial.
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That is far from the main purpose of his website. The word "may" is in that quote, as even in those circumstances, it can be argued if a site is commercial or not. Zeal says that a site with more content than commercial content or links is not commercial. I would disagree that his site should be refused. |
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06-18-2004, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by unrealfragmaster
That is far from the main purpose of his website. The word "may" is in that quote, as even in those circumstances, it can be argued if a site is commercial or not. Zeal says that a site with more content than commercial content or links is not commercial. I would disagree that his site should be refused.
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I think you told me that you became a contributor. Why don't you try submitting his site and see what the editor says? |
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06-18-2004, 07:47 AM
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The editor will say the exact same thing. I disagree with it :p
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