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Old 09-09-2008, 05:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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.edu directories??

guys where can I find list of .edu directory submission??

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Old 09-09-2008, 06:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Try this http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...earch&aq=f&oq=
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:22 AM   #3 (permalink)
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You're wasting your time. You'll get nothing special from an .edu link than you'll get from a link with any other domain extension.

This is and always has been a myth - a persistent myth but a myth nonetheless.
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Old 09-10-2008, 08:23 AM   #4 (permalink)
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You're wasting your time. You'll get nothing special from an .edu link than you'll get from a link with any other domain extension.

This is and always has been a myth - a persistent myth but a myth nonetheless.
You own a .edu to judge or you just taking what matty (a web spam engineer) has to say and running with it?
I do. I own and run a couple, some .mil too. Do links on those weight more than regular sites with equal PR? yes and no. For the most part, yes.
Depends on whether the site is aged, active, and so on but for the most part, a .edu/.mil (im sure same applies for a .gov just haven't worked with one so wont comment) does weigh more than another domain with any other extension.

Let's just say that .edu/.mil (/.gov) backlinks, are worth the time to nab, I would be willing to put money where my mouth is in providing minstrel with an example, but people have to get their facts straight, and not just other peoples facts regardles of who they are or what position they hold.

(but then again what can you expect from a people who's sites rank as poorly as efin cdb, not to mention generate as little traffic. He who knows squat loves to roll around in the mud, just to look like he's part of the bigger picture I say.)

People should only talk about crap they understand and have a personal BG in to keep the level of content here decent.

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And I can't think of a reason to submit .edu sites to a directory....

for SEO? I thought .edu are like .gov that doesn't need Optimization...
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And I can't think of a reason to submit .edu sites to a directory....

for SEO? I thought .edu are like .gov that doesn't need Optimization...
They don't. They are all equal SEO wise. However, they can fool users who think that a .org or .edu is a more trusty link.
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They don't. They are all equal SEO wise. However, they can fool users who think that a .org or .edu is a more trusty link.
Exactly.

http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/seo-article-in-newsweek

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Matt Said,
December 12, 2005 @ 9:48 am

Yahoo links are helpful because they’re high PageRank, but that’s the only reason; there’s no special “Yahoo boost” or edu-boost or gov-boost. Those links just tend to be higher quality.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...37348670651505

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And Thomas writes in and says does Google index or rank blog sites differently than regular web sites. That’s a good question, not really. Some one else asked about links from gov’s and edu’s and whether links from two levels deep gov’s and edu’s, like gov.pl are worth the same as .gov, and the fact is that we don’t really have much in the way of saying oh this is a link from the ODP or from .gov or .edu so give that some sort of special boost. It’s just those sites tend to have higher Pagerank because more people link to them and reputable people link to them.
DMOZ:

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There is no special “ODP boost.” The PageRank value of a link from an ODP page is solely because that ODP page has high PageRank.
Any page with equivalent Page Rank and equivalent relevance to your site/page content will give you the same benefit (or lack thereof).
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I think backlinks from both edu and gov domains are not so popular as before.People used to take them seriously.
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it is really hard to find such a site that will give you backlink specially if it is a .edu or .gov domain.
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Old 09-10-2008, 11:38 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I disagree Mikey.

Here is a quote from Matt Cutts:

Matt Cutts: Typically, our policy is: a link is a link, is a link; wherever that link's worth is, that is the worth that we give it. Some people ask about links from DMOZ, links from .edu or links from .gov, and they say: "Isn't there some sort of boost? Isn't a link better if it comes from a .edu?" The short answer is: no, it is not. It is just .edu links tend to have higher PageRank, because more people link to .edu's or .gov's.

Stephan Spencer: Yes. Which is what I would expect that SEOs would have already realized.

Matt Cutts: Well, you would be surprised how many are like: "Oh, I have to get .edu links because they are better." You can have a useless .edu link just like you can have a great .com link.


The bottom line is: there is no difference in term of SEO. You can start a website with a url abc.com or abc.org or abc.edu, Google won't care.
The only difference is that if you get backlinks from those websites, they usually have a higher page rank and will help increasing yours.

the whole interview:
http://www.stephanspencer.com/search...utts-interview

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Old 09-12-2008, 11:39 AM   #11 (permalink)
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An authority link is an authority link, I agree. .edu names (that cant be registered by just anyone, or .gov/.mil) DO carry more weight, and im not just saying that to disagree here bud. Think about it for yourself and not what others state. Just common sense. If Matt goes and publishes an article telling the world the .edu ARE stronger than reg names with same pr/rank/so on, what do you think will happen?

Spam fest. What's his role? Anti-spam dude. *hint hint*

But to each there own, I mean if you shine the light on the path for people and yet they choose to run into a ****ing wall, so be it you know?
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An authority link is an authority link, I agree. .edu names (that cant be registered by just anyone, or .gov/.mil) DO carry more weight, and im not just saying that to disagree here bud. Think about it for yourself and not what others state. Just common sense. If Matt goes and publishes an article telling the world the .edu ARE stronger than reg names with same pr/rank/so on, what do you think will happen?

Spam fest. What's his role? Anti-spam dude. *hint hint*

But to each there own, I mean if you shine the light on the path for people and yet they choose to run into a ****ing wall, so be it you know?
You have made a good point (spam fest). That's also why I participate on forums. It's to hear everyone's view. I don't go out there, pretending to know everything and be stubborn.
Personally, I believe that .edu don't carry more weight. They might a little bit but not exponentially compared to .com etc...
I think the biggest advantage of .edu .org etc...is the website's "neighborhood". Google refuses to testify on that. Again, in this interview, Matt eludes the question saying it's part of "Google's secret sauce".

I mean I could increase the relevancy of a website. But again, .edu are free for everyone to register so I don't see why they would give more weight to website open to the public.
Again, Google MUST make a difference between links coming from established .edu .org than a brand new .edu
But that works also for .com and any other link.

you said you have seen results from your own websites. Could you PM me those results? I would love to have definite proof on that topic.
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.edu names are not available for registration to the general public they are restricted. My .edu names were grand-fathered, i'm sure you know what that means.

Even universities have to be at least 2 years old and/or accredited with tons of paper work there before they nab a .edu

.pro. those are restricted, or were. now ok. i think you still have to show credentials . However .edu are still very much restricted and can not be simply sold either. or even leased. (just fyi there)

I'll PM you later with an example so you can stop posting and blabbering
Appreciate your open mindedness here.
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Sorry, just so no smart ass tries to act like a half wit know it all and so I answer your question with something more than a mere statement this time;

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But again, .edu are free for everyone to register so I don't see why they would give more weight to website open to the public.
http://www.buydomains.com/domain-res...gistration.jsp

http://www.buydomains.com/domain-res...gistration.jsp
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