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Old 02-15-2012, 06:13 PM
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Question Old/new design, indexed with errors

Two months ago I've redesigned my website and in the process, divided pages into more user friendly shape. Since the format had changed, not the basic content (in essence, minor improvements were added) I didn't perform 301 redirect. My primary thought was that Google will index the pages and recognize the similar pattern, within different site organization. Almost all the pages have been indexed quickly indeed. But the other day I've checked google Webmaster Tools which still contains double digit number of crawl errors - mostly previous names of the pages in the old format. Keywords for which the site is found have fallen to only few. I have two questions:

Should I do 301 redirect even though more than two months have passed?

And finally, from your experience, how much time does it take for newly indexed website to function fully in SERP terms?

 
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Old 02-15-2012, 06:17 PM
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Can't you request a de-index for those pages?

The last time I did something like that, I left the redirects up for a year.
 
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Old 02-15-2012, 06:24 PM
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I'm not sure if the old pages are even indexed. The crawl errors date till beginning of February, recently they've stopped growing in numbers.
At the same time most of the serp positions were lost. Newly submitted sitemap is almost fully indexed according to Webmaster Tools.

I know I should have left redirects, beginners mistake
 
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Put the redirects back. You not only have to fix the index in the search engines, there's the incoming links you don't know about to consider also.

Will help recover your PR (good, same or worst) to the revised pages also possibly.

How long it takes to correct the index would depend on how often the bots crawl your site.

A Sitemap really doesn't make any difference. If you read the information about Sitemaps they tell you it is no guarantee of the page(s) being indexed.
 
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You not only have to fix the index in the search engines, there's the incoming links you don't know about to consider also.

A Sitemap really doesn't make any difference. If you read the information about Sitemaps they tell you it is no guarantee of the page(s) being indexed.

I should have mentioned the back links part. Good catch.

An HTML site map that is complete with a link to it from the 404 page can help a visitor find the occasional thing you forget to include in the redirects. If it is a very long, database produced list you could cache it after one run.

Other than that I pretty much agree with what Tutor said.
 
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Thank you both for detailed explanation. I'll put the redirects in, since the website is being crawled very often it will hopefully react to change in a short timeframe. The basic mistake was my belief that because the site was new at the time, the changes won't reflect in google as much.
 
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