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Old 04-21-2011, 11:41 PM
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OMG.... Page 4
Yep; the empty claims just keep on coming.

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Just what has this to do with the topic of discussion?

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If you care to read the thread you would see my post is on topic with the gingerlyspicy's post. See below.

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many sites do like

Keyword text1 | Keyword text2 | Keyword text3 | Keywod text4 | Keywrd text5in the title

even the top sites are doing these and they are pretty successful so i m not sure what shud i do ?
 
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Old 04-22-2011, 12:20 AM
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If you care to read the thread you would see my post is on topic with the gingerlyspicy's post. See below.
You misunderstand him.

His was a comment regarding keyword stuffing in Titles, not the stop character(s) used to demarcate them.

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Old 04-22-2011, 12:24 AM
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On a constructive note. Of the many plug-in's for wordpress their are plenty to help you with keyword density, I use Copy Compass and in my opinion it is doing a god job of guiding me in the right direction.
 
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I want yo know what is the formula for keyword density percentage.
 
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Old 04-22-2011, 12:28 AM
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You misunderstand him.

His was a comment regarding keyword stuffing in Titles, not the stop character(s) used to demarcate them.

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Fair point, I'm not saying Keyword stuffing is good, but keywords in titles are and as long as they are relevent to your main text they should help. Right?

@egalejiya, you could try reading this thread, the post above you will be very helpful in you use wordpress

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I want yo know what is the formula for keyword density percentage.
  • List each and every word on the page.
  • Count and record how many times each word appears.
  • Add those counts to as to have a total word count for the page.
  • For each word, divide its count by the page total.

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Keyword should appear once in header tags, once in bold. Must be there in meta tags and img alt tag. should not add more than once that will give bad impression.
Setting aside that fact that there is no rule here, the alt attribute is not for keywords.

It is to be used as a description of the image, for those using a text only browser, and for the vision impaired who use a screen reader.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt_attribute#Example for an example of the proper use of alt.

Do not abuse alt, lest the page be judged to be spammy and/or you inconvenience your visitors.

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Fair point, I'm not saying Keyword stuffing is good, but keywords in titles are and as long as they are relevent to your main text they should help. Right?
I didn't think that you were endorsing keyword stuffing, simply pointing out that that was the thrust of the post by gingerlyspicy, and that mention there of the character "|" was irrelevant.

Keywords in Titles are fine to the extent that they serve to describe the page.

If, for example, it's the home page for Joe's Hardware Store, then the Title should describe that store, by way of beginning with the store name. Keywords relating to the goods and services offered by that store might then follow its name, like so.

"Joe's Hardware Store, your source for ... ."

Remember that the Title is what visitors will see as the browser window/tab name, as well as on Task Bar buttons. Given that the amount of space available to any of those is small, having the store name at the front will make it easier for the user to locate the appropriate window/tab should they momentarily navigate to another task.

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Should be minimum 2to3% for white HAT SEO.
 
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Should be minimum 2to3% for white HAT SEO.
If you are going to make claims re. acceptable ratios, then you need to substantiate those claims. Empty opinions help no one.

Everyone claims a different number; and, no one offers anything to back it up.

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Yes the amount of keywords used in your content makes a lot of difference, an effort should be made to keep it between 3 to 5%.
 
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... an effort should be made to keep it between 3 to 5%.
As I said to you earlier
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If you are going to make claims re. acceptable ratios, then you need to substantiate those claims. Empty opinions help no one.

Everyone claims a different number; and, no one offers anything to back it up.
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Keyword density into the content should be around 3%-5%
If you are going to make claims re. acceptable ratios, then you need to substantiate those claims. Empty opinions help no one.

Everyone claims a different number; and, no one offers anything to back it up.

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There is no specific rules but i can say that 3 to 6 percent keyword density is good.Some one may use on his or her experience but it is my experience which i ave shared here.
 
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Nearly 80 posts in this thread, a gazillion different claims made, and not a smidgeon of evidence has been offered to back up any of those claims.

That means that everyone is just either guessing, or repeating someone else's guess.

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Old 04-26-2011, 10:51 PM
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I think the ratio of keyword density is different for the different HTML tags of one page.
Like the <title> <meta description> <meta keywords> <body> and <a href>. In the body the keyword density should not be more than 3% and this percentage is ideal also. You can focus on the titles and descriptions and make them keyword rich as much as possible but they should not look like a spam. Same is the case of <a href> the hyper text can be made up of keywords. You can also make the urls of your page keyword rich and Google will not hate it.
 
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There is no specific rules but i can say that 3 to 6 percent keyword density is good.Some one may use on his or her experience but it is my experience which i ave shared here.
That one has used/done something at a given rate not only does not mean that that is the optimal rate, it does not mean that there is an optimal rate, let alone speak to what such rate might be.

Furthermore, if an optimal rate does exist under some conditions, it does not follow that such will hold for all conditions.

People need to stop obsessing about what they can and cannot get away with with the SEs, and get back to writing naturally for the visitors.

Write as you would speak to another face to face, and you'll have no cause for concern

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I think the ratio of keyword density is different for the different HTML tags of one page.
Like the <title> <meta description> <meta keywords> <body> and <a href>. In the body the keyword density should not be more than 3% and this percentage is ideal also. You can focus on the titles and descriptions and make them keyword rich as much as possible but they should not look like a spam. Same is the case of <a href> the hyper text can be made up of keywords. You can also make the urls of your page keyword rich and Google will not hate it.
Google:
  • Stopped using the data in <meta keywords> years ago, owing to people using it for keyword stuffing;
  • Has expressly warned against using the <title> for keyword promotion; and,
  • Only uses the <meta description> occasionally, dynamically selecting from at least 9 different sources a snippet deemed best for the particular query in question.

As for the claim that 3% is "ideal," under what conditions does this hold; and, what evidence is there to support such claim?

Has anyone run a rigorous multivariate test for this?

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Keyword density should be 3% to 5 %. This method merely helps to increase the site relevancy to certain keywords on search engine eyes.
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