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Old 11-11-2009, 07:41 PM
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Crisis in U.S. Education

Staggering Crisis in U.S. Education Found in Study
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...3ya4G.Ok&pos=9

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More than two-thirds of U.S. teachers disapprove of how their public schools are run and 90 percent say “routine duties and paperwork” interfere with their teaching, a report found.
As always, please read the article above before responding to this thread.

(1) Do you believe there is a crisis? Why do you believe that?

(2) What do you believe would be an effective solution?
 
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Old 11-11-2009, 09:59 PM
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I think anyone that is even partially educated has to know that there are problems in our educational system. Those that have or are going to college and have seen what is actually coming out of our school systems in comparison to other situations such as selected private schools, and home schooling knows that there is an immense chasm between those educational sources.

Is the entire problem one that lands on the heads of the government, of school boards, or teachers? Absolutely not, though the very money structure that exists in the public school system now begs for problems, teachers and systems performing in the interest of the money, not the interest of the student shall we say, teachers are sent to or attending ADHD seminars during off months, some even during the school year to be taught to recognize the DMV IV's plathora of symptoms that are related with such things, as any student deemed to have ADHD, speech impaired, comes from a low income home, or a gaggle of other things the school receives money from the federal and state government in excess to what they would get for regular students.

The main problem is not that a teacher is trained to perceive such things as ADHD, or other things, the problem is that there is an incentive for school systems to prompt it to be seen. As not to get into an argument as to whether ADHD exists or doesn't exist as that is outside the scope of this topic, it is safe to say that an extremely large percentage of children diagnosed as such either are not, nor can they possibly be adequately diagnosed properly. Three year olds are not old enough to diagnose, and definitely under no circumstances should they be on drugs to treat such things, but because of parental isolation and dishonesty, teacher frustration or laziness, and school system overwhelming need or simply greed, they are.

The initial solution has to begin in the home, parents must take an active role in supporting their children, allowing the schools to support their children if they so agree with what it is they are doing, and discipline must be reinforced at home and at school, the school system and the parents must work in unison, the students must be supported, guided, and prompted to excel as their abilities allow them to do, not to force them into a mold that all must adhere to or fail....

There is more for me to say on this, though I am loosing myself at the moment and have probably said to much already for one post, go figure that :-)

But in a last bit of advice...let kids be kids, let them enjoy themselves and learning, assist them to enhance themselves naturally as that is human nature....remember that not everyone learns the same, some are logically minded, others are better at working with their hands, while others are better at seeing it acted out, why not inspire a childs strengths and build upon their weaknesses to enhance them as a person over all?
 
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Old 11-11-2009, 11:08 PM
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.(1) Do you believe there is a crisis? Why do you believe that?

(2) What do you believe would be an effective solution?
1) Yes. I grew up in the system, but was lucky enough to have a brain. Never did my homework once but passed all my classes. Was smarter than my teachers. Graduated and started college at 15 (seriously).

2) The solution is simple. STOP TRYING TO TEACH EVERYTHING. Teaching everything is much the same as teaching nothing. If a man tries to do everything, he will achieve nothing.

Humans are specialist creatures. We become carpenters, executives, masons, chemists, etc. Let each child learn his passions and decide the path he wants to go on.

Instead we try to force them to be renaissance men and they fail utterly. Then we kick them out of school at 18 and they have no idea what they want to do with their lives because we never allowed them to explore their talents and desires. Elective classes tried to remedy this but fail to offer students any real hands on opportunities. Apprenticeships have been all but erased.

Also, classes should be taught in the opposite manner. Rather than 5 months of 8 classes, it should be "one class at a time" for a few weeks each.

Basically with 8 classes x 15 minute breaks = 2 hours of 7 lost a day. PLUS it takes a good 10 minutes just to get the students to settle down and pay attention. Then in the final 5 minutes they stop paying attention because it's almost time to switch. Basically 4 hours of 7 is lost solely because we switch classes so much.

And people wonder why kids are ADD.
 
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Old 11-12-2009, 04:40 AM
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The only thing i believe in education is that everyone is lazy. Teacher are lazy to work properly and kids are lazy to study. I may sound too categoric, but i think it's true.
 
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2) The solution is simple. STOP TRYING TO TEACH EVERYTHING. Teaching everything is much the same as teaching nothing. If a man tries to do everything, he will achieve nothing.

Humans are specialist creatures. We become carpenters, executives, masons, chemists, etc. Let each child learn his passions and decide the path he wants to go on.

Instead we try to force them to be renaissance men and they fail utterly.
How do you expect a school kid to decide which specialty he will study if you don't give them a preview of everything? or are you implying that parents should decide for their careers?
 
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Old 11-12-2009, 09:16 AM
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In order to make the kids education more interesting why not innovate more significant events/ideas or change the current curriculum. More students-teachers involvement.
 
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