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Old 11-13-2009, 07:00 PM
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What Would You Do If You Saw A Child In Trouble?

Watching this video was very disturbing for me. What is wrong with us as a society that makes it even possible that it took HOURS for someone to respond? You can give it any fancy name ya want (bystander effect) but I call it a society that somehow has forgotten how to stand up for what is right. They just don't want to get involved. How do we change that?

The end of the video (when the 2 guys jumped in) brought tears to my eyes . . .

Please watch the entire video before responding.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVrvq4intDw
 
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Old 11-13-2009, 07:52 PM
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There is no laws in US or Canada about that, but there is a law in my country (France) which can punish people if they do not provide assistance for people in immediat threats or life threat. It is punishable of 5 years in prison and 75,000 euros fine.

It is in French Cricket and I did not find the English version:
Non-assistance personne en danger
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-ass...onne_en_danger

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Old 11-13-2009, 09:14 PM
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this is really a eye- opening video. This states where we lie now. I mean we only think of ourself, why can't we think broader. If you ask me then I believe that I would have responded like those two guys.

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There is no laws in US or Canada about that, but there is a law in my country (France) which can punish people if they do not provide assistance for people in immediat threats or life threat. It is punishable of 5 years in prison and 75,000 euros fine.
Great if France has some law about that.

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Old 11-14-2009, 01:21 AM
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The end of the video (when the 2 guys jumped in) brought tears to my eyes . . .
Somebody might protest and call that "taking the law into your own hands".
 
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Old 11-14-2009, 04:42 PM
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You know what, John, if more people were not afraid to take the law into their own hands, people who do stuff like this for real wouldn't get away with it half as much as they do now.

I don't care what a judge says about it, if I want to take the law into my own hands, God help the perp. (I think you have an idea what I think about the legal system. I do not rely on the police.)

But let's back up here. From the girl's response to the man grabbing her, it's a real judgement call as to whether she's really in trouble or just angry at her stepdad, which is why she would yell "You're not my dad!" and "Help me!" It didn't appear to me that she was protesting enough, as she would have if it had been a real abduction.

I think she would've gotten a much better response from people had she said nothing and just started screaming as loudly as she could and tried to pull away from him. I think people will respond much more to a child screaming bloody murder than a child who may just be angry at her actual parent. Maybe they should test that.

Most people know better than to yell "Help, Police!" People will ignore you. But they won't ignore you as much if you yell, "FIRE!" because the fire may be right under their rear ends.
 
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Old 11-14-2009, 05:13 PM
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The tube was not working to well tonight. Took me 10 minutes to get the first 90 seconds so I gave up.

I think I would have stopped and watched closely to what happened next. I doubt that I would have interferred with nothing more than I saw. As Allen said she sounded like a petulant kid talking to her step-dad.

And darn it defense attorneys are expensive for a wrong-full action defense.

Now screaming I may have gotten involved.

So what do we have here? A real situation or TV exploitation?

You tell me.
 
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Old 11-15-2009, 02:47 PM
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I respectfully disagree. A child screaming help me is more than enough information to stop and see what is going on. FWIW many years ago one of my children was throwing a massive fit in a local grocery store when he was about 3 years old. I picked him up and began walking out of the store with him (all the while he screamed 'help me'). I never made it to the door before being stopped by security. LOL! I offered to let them take him but warned they would likely bring him back to me within moments.

Did I get angry for being stopped for questioning? Heck no! Store security did the right thing and it made me even more loyal to the store.
 
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Old 11-15-2009, 05:03 PM
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I see that comparision as apples and oranges.

The security guy was doing his job. You would not have made it out of my store either unless I saw it from begining to end and knew the whole story. I wasn't in security. I was management.

A street scene is a totally different ballgame. I would monitor the situation and dial 911 if I thought there was just cause.

You did not get angry but a large % of people today would. Some maybe even violent. It is a crazy world out there.

I know we can not agree on everything. Life would not be much fun if we did.
 
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