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Old 03-24-2019, 07:55 PM
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I would prefer that over lying in a bed having my butt wiped.


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Old 03-25-2019, 06:09 AM
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Earlier you said you ran a lawn care business when younger.

How many applications per year do you think is the best bang for the buck and results in a good lawn? I ask because around here they all seem to want to sell 7 and that does not include aeration or grub control.

That's about 2 more than I personally think a lawn needs. I assume they do it to keep the techs working.

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Old 03-25-2019, 07:20 AM
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Fertilizing? I'd say 3-4 would be fine. If you are doing any of the applications yourself, the nitrogen should be highest in the spring - but not too high as you don't want the grass to grow too fast. In most fertilizer bags nitrogen numbers are shown first and in spring, should be between 20 and 30. I se a lot of 25/10/10 for use early in the spring once the snow is gone, any pooling of water is gone. Those numbers will change to something like 10/25/10 later in the year (fall or later). Nitrogen should be reduced in the warmer days (early and mid summer). Make sure it's "slow release".

Only apply grub control if you see evidence of it. You'll see dry tan patches where the little f'ers have eaten the roots, therefor killing the grass. You can even take a spade and pull up (but not completely separated from the ground) a little slice of turf no more than 4" thick. Sift by hand thru the section looking for the while f'ers. If none, pat down and that piece will be find an grow. You might have to check a half dozen places or more. If you don't see the grubs, you are lucky.

More than likely, grub material applications are done early to mid summer. In the US, you can get a good bag of grub control at Home Depot (or similar) and lightly apply in the areas of concern - usually sunny dry soil. you just have to water it in a bit afterwards to activate the chemicals. Knowing where the grubs are on your lawn historically, a light application every year in those areas until you are sure it's under control might be suggested. You may have to apply twice.

Aeration? I'd suggest once per year in the spring (not while the ground is saturated or really wet) until you get a good thick growth happening. If anything, maybe once every two years after that if you like.

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Old 03-25-2019, 07:58 AM
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For me grubs have never been a problem.

I do not see any crabgrass pre-emergent on your list. Is that not an issue up north?

Also did not see any broad leaf weed control. Are one or more of your fertilizer treatments weed and feed?

So based on your opinion we pretty much agree, 4-5 per year is plenty. 7 trips a year is just busy work.
 
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For me grubs have never been a problem.
If the lawn company suggest it, ask them to prove grubs are present.

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I do not see any crabgrass pre-emergent on your list. Is that not an issue up north?
Sure there is crab grass up here. There are a few product (liquid is better than granular) that gets broad leaf and crab grass both.

I notice the crabgrass loves the sun and hot dry soil.

IMO, clover (which can be hard to get rid of) likes the les sunny spots.

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So based on your opinion we pretty much agree, 4-5 per year is plenty. 7 trips a year is just busy work.
Depending if you need crab grass and broadleaf spraying, I'd add those two services to the 4 granular fertilizing apps - should be plenty. And, if you need spraying for weeds - maybe have it done late spring and fall.

If I were you (depending on how big your property is), I'd just get some selective herbicide concentrated liquid, mix it in a carry-around-sprayer, walk around every couple of weeks and spot-spry any weeds you see. This is what I do once per week in the spring, but then every couple of weeks after that.

Get a spreader and put down the fertilizer also - saving money is good!

In all honesty, you should consider doing yourself and save the money. It takes a bit of thought and care, but it's not that hard to do.

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In all honesty, you should consider doing yourself and save the money. It takes a bit of thought and care, but it's not that hard to do.
That is what I am doing this year. Mainly because I have one small 2-300 sq foot area that needs seeding and it is impossible to do in the early fall because of the leaf drop from a neighbor's trees. Can't do it in the spring because the crabgrass treatment prevents germination.

Now that I'm mostly retired I may be able to get it done in a timely manner. When I was working it never got done on time.
 
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