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Old 01-12-2007, 11:08 AM
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Microsoft takes email design back 5 years

This doesn't look good for outlook users.

http://www.campaignmonitor.com/blog/..._design_b.html
 
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Old 01-12-2007, 11:12 AM
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Huh. I don't understand why people like Outlook so much anyways.
 
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Old 01-12-2007, 11:20 AM
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I can't stand it. I even tried TB, which is a step up.

But all in all I still prefer my webmail Gmail.
 
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Old 01-12-2007, 11:21 AM
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Huh. I don't understand why people like Outlook so much anyways.
Maybe because it does what it's supposed to do, like sending and receiving emails?

 
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Old 01-12-2007, 11:22 AM
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Um, I guess. But there are other solutions. I guess what I mean...is why are people so dependent on it? Like they can't function if Outlook isn't working right or isn't available..etc.
 
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Old 01-12-2007, 12:59 PM
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Because in Corporate America, most use Outlook. My last job required I have outlook installed on my computer.. they ran MS Server and Exchange. I have never worked a job where they didn't use outlook.
 
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Old 01-12-2007, 01:01 PM
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Hmm. In any of my jobs, we've never used Outlook. In fact, Outlook is blocked on my pc at work (at my current job).
 
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Old 01-12-2007, 01:06 PM
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Most people buy a pc with windows pre-installed and outlook (express) is part of that. Instead of installing another email client most people just use the handy add-account-wizard that comes with windows outlook.

I think that at least 80% of the pc users don't bother to search for another email client when they already have one that does the job.

 
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Old 01-12-2007, 01:09 PM
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I LOVE outlook and wouldn't think of not using it.
 
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Old 01-12-2007, 01:15 PM
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I learned HTML with it. I used to write stuff in outlook and copy the source when I just started making my first website. Doing that made me understand how to code manually.
 
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I learned HTML with it. I used to write stuff in outlook and copy the source when I just started making my first website. Doing that made me understand how to code manually.
Thats kind of interesting... I never heard of anyone learning HTML that way. I learned how to code manually just by having questions and then searching to figure out how to do it.
 
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Old 01-12-2007, 01:46 PM
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Hehhe, when I started there was no such thing as 'Google' to search for stuff and tutorials were not around that much, I remember the first tutorials I've seen were at Lycos when they started.

 
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1. No background images - Background images in divs and table cells are gone, meaning Mark's image replacement technique is out the window.
2. Poor background color support - Give a div or table cell a background color, add some text to it and the background color displays fine. Nest another table or div inside though and the background color vanishes.
3. No support for float or position - Completely breaking any CSS based layouts right from the word go. Tables only.
4. Shocking box model support - Very poor support for padding and margin, and you thought IE5 was bad!
NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

Who cares-- My emails are plain text anyway!
 
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Old 01-12-2007, 02:55 PM
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Hehhe, when I started there was no such thing as 'Google' to search for stuff and tutorials were not around that much, I remember the first tutorials I've seen were at Lycos when they started.

I have no idea when Google started, I know AOL went from a DOS program to windows in 1994. I started playing around with HTML in 1997. I do however remember the first "browser" I used back in 1994.. it was a unix text driven browser, utilized through my local BBS. I used to go to this online cd store and bought hard to find cd's. I remember the first thing I searched for with a visual windows browser, Aleister Crowley. That had to of been in 1995. I miss the BBS days.
 
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Old 01-13-2007, 08:54 AM
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The funny thing is, Microsoft keeps screwing up but they will NEVER stop making money.
 
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Old 01-13-2007, 08:05 PM
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Most people buy a pc with windows pre-installed and outlook (express) is part of that. Instead of installing another email client most people just use the handy add-account-wizard that comes with windows outlook.

I think that at least 80% of the pc users don't bother to search for another email client when they already have one that does the job.

That because most computer users dont know jack. They go which ever direction that you point them in.
Most everyone I know, that is not in the business, knows enough to check and send email, do "work Stuff", and surf.....THAT"S IT!

I use outlook, and I am use to it, but I friggin hate it. It's not reliable and takes up way to much processor. It's a frickin' hog.

Now I just upgraded to 2007, and I cant get rid of it to go back to 2003. I am stuck with it!

Damn you Gates!!!

Its got great options, if you didnt have to screw around with it so much, and it didn't take up soooo muuuch speed!!

I can do 5 times the things with outlook closed, that I can with it open.

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Old 01-13-2007, 10:25 PM
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I just use Outlook Express, I think it's class like. Does everything I need it to do, means I have my mail constantly available too which I like as I do send a lot of emails to clients / friends / parents etc. Wouldn't swap it for anything
 
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Old 01-16-2007, 04:44 PM
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If you look at the Update in the Campaign Monitor blog, apparently this has something to do with Microsoft needing to separate their browser from the OS and Office for anti-trust reasons.
 
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Old 01-16-2007, 10:15 PM
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why can't they just make it an option then?
 
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Old 01-16-2007, 11:08 PM
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Even if they just made it an option, using Word as the rendering engine would have to be the default if it's an anti-trust issue. Most people probably wouldn't change the settings.
 
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