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Old 03-11-2006, 10:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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BlueFind Redesign & Overhaul

Over a year ago, Google zapped Bluefind. BlueFind went from PR8 to PR0, and referrals from Google all but disappeared.

Why this happened is unclear. Everybody has a pet theory. I tend to believe that Google whacked BlueFind because it deserved to be whacked. The editor in charge was less than diligent in enforcing the stated editorial guidelines, and I was sort of MIA where BlueFind was concerned.

Whatever the cause, the categories were a mess and a lot of site that should never have been listed where listed. Fortunately, many of those were one-year sponsored listing, and are no longer listed in BlueFind.

We've been overhauling BlueFind and moving sites to the most relevant categories, delisting sites that have gone 404/domain expired/otherwise no longer listable.

As coincidence would have it, Google has for some odd reason returned some PageRank to BlueFind. Mostly PR2 and PR3's, but we have already blocked Google and other engines from indexing the directory pages because the redesign will use new pages.

The redesigned BlueFind will use a different directory script, customized, and the URL's will be formatted like this:

http://www.bluefind.com/dir/2075.php

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http://www.bluefind.com/top/Antiques-Collectibles/

As we import the listing from the old database to the new, the listings in the visible database will gradually disappear. Each lsiting is being imported by manually and reviewed in the process. Descriptions and titles and keywords will be edited as needed to meet our quality guidelines.
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Old 03-11-2006, 11:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hey John I have a question though...How come:
http://www.bluefind.com/dir/2075.php
has a PR3 but your main page doesn't have any PR?

Also, your website is not banned from google either, but are you sure that Google probably bought down your PR due to overptimization?

Try getting a Google Sitemap for BlueFind and see your highest ranked webpage for clues I guess...
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Old 03-16-2006, 10:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Sounds like a great plan John
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sounds like a swell of an idea John
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I think that's exactly what is needed. The reasons I didn't submit my sites to Bluefind was because there seemed to be a lack of organization. I'm sure that reorganizing things will make it a better value to submitters.
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Try getting a Google Sitemap for BlueFind and see your highest ranked webpage for clues I guess...

Sixty6, Google whacked BlueFind because it was buying mass linkage.
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I think that's exactly what is needed. The reasons I didn't submit my sites to Bluefind was because there seemed to be a lack of organization. I'm sure that reorganizing things will make it a better value to submitters.
Yes, James, it was an absolute mess. It's a lot of work to put it in order, but we're making progress
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Old 03-21-2006, 03:10 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Great to hear. I thought it was very cool that Bluefind was quickly able to become a hugely important directory and would like to see it back where it belongs so to speak.
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So then it's settled!
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Good luck John with developing the new bluefind. It's good to see this web directory hasn't been forgotten.

Why would you put /top/ into the urls? I believe botw and google uses the /top/ aswel. Is there a certain level of search engine strategy behind that?
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No, just a way of keeping it off root, so I can put more content on root.
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Thumbs up Excellent directory!

BlueFind is a very well organized directory and as such, I've just added my employment web site, SuperJobs.net, to those already listed.

Continue the improvements and keep up the great work ; )
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Question What happened to my paid link?

Hi John,

I used to have (and paid) for the listing in BlueFind.
But I can't find it there anymore. I can't even find it via your search on http://directory.v7n.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi

What happened?

Old location: http://www.bluefind.com/dir/920.php
Resource: Dating TOP
URL: http://www.datingtop.org/
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http://www.bluefind.org/Top/Society/...nships/Dating/

I found it there, searched for Dating Top.
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That is not exactly what I have paid for
I have paid for the listing on www.bluefind.com.
You are referencing to www.bluefind.org which is obviously a different domain, different BL, .org vs .com, etc

http://www.bluefind.com is pointing to http://directory.v7n.com/ right now, but my listing is not a part of last one

Can it be added on http://directory.v7n.com/Top/Society/Relationships/ ?

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BlueFind Directory - www.bluefind.org

We are experimenting with the redirect, since BlueFind.com domain issues.
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From that post: http://www.v7n.com/forums/sevenseek-...sevenseek.html you have said that in case SevenSEEK sells, the new owner will be contractually obligated to respect the currently listed sites, and prohibited from removing listings without good cause.

Well, my listing was removed from domain bluefind.com.
I don't care if there are any other BlueFind Directories exist under any other domain. That is NOT what I have paid for. Make sense?

Again, bluefind.org worth nothing to me and I wouldn't pay a penny to be added to the directory with PR0 and 0 BL.

If my listing can't be restored on http://www.bluefind.com or http://directory.v7n.com/Top/Society/Relationships/, I would like to request a refund.
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PM me the PayPal transaction I will get that refund issued.
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Well, my listing was removed from domain bluefind.com.
I don't care if there are any other BlueFind Directories exist under any other domain. That is NOT what I have paid for. Make sense?

Again, bluefind.org worth nothing to me and I wouldn't pay a penny to be added to the directory with PR0 and 0 BL.
IMHO, a listing on bluefind.org is worth much more than a listing on bluefind.com because bluefind.com is obviously penalized in Google.

Unlike other directory owners who simply abandon a directory when it is penalized, John is actually trying to resurrect the directory and give submitters continued value. Moving to a new domain is not a cheap and easy thing to do.

It seems to me somewhat illogical that you would NOT demand money back from someone who simply abandoned their directory because it was penalized as the listing would remain exactly where you submitted it. OTOH you demand money back from someone who goes to the time and trouble to improve your listing by moving it to an unpenalized domain because the listing is in a different location.

IMHO, you got what you paid for - a listing for the lifetime of the directory. Plus you're getting an added bonus - a listing in a new directory that you didn't pay for.
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