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04-15-2006, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnScott
All the sites are falling out of the listings. We are importing them from the old to the new directory and they will not show up in search or in the category until we regenerate the pages. (Yep, the new directory is based on a script which generates html pages for each category.)
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Just a reminder here, all listings from the old database are being imported into the new database (with the exception of MFA scraper sites and dead links).
For those people who can't put two and two together, that means that some websites are still listed in the old database and have not yet made it to the new directory database.
If you want to watch the progress of the editors, you can do so by looking for the "New" icon by categories.
http://www.bluefind.com/Top/Business_,038_Industry/
Looks like a lot of activity there.
http://www.bluefind.com/Top/Health_,038_Fitness/
Not a lot of activity there.
The import process will take some time so be patient.
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04-17-2006, 12:50 PM
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Looks good, congrats. I just submitted a new project.
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04-20-2006, 12:46 AM
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JohnScott:
>>>I would assume that PageRank would be assigned to those pages after the robots exclusion is lifted.
If there is no ban or penalty on your site Real Pagerank is already assigned to all pages in the Google index. The toolbar Pagerank values are exported every 3 or 4 months. It is only at that time that the toolbar database will be updated again.
You site is showing 68,700 pages in the Google index. For some reason only 2 will display.
While your robots exclusion will stop the googlebot for spidering your pages, all pages in the Google index are assigned a Real Pagerank value. If you get no Toolbar Pagerank during the Pagerank export it is because of one of two things. They have no Real Pagerank or they are not in the index.
One is as bad as the other.
I will rejoice with you if on the next PR update day all pages will get PR but don't hold you breath.
I do how every think that the spanking that Google has given bluefind.com is long over due to end.
Shane got this PR back on Uncoverthenet.com (I when on record and predicted via their blogged that this would happen and continued to submit my clients sites), Bob Massa has PR on the home page but none on the inside pages (I am really hoping he will get it all back next export), but Webatlas.org still is a PR0 and has no documents in the Google index.
What ever the issue currently is with Bluefind I wish you all the best John. I also thing every time any one sees Uncle Cutts they should tell him to give Massa, bluefind and Webatlas there PR back.
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04-20-2006, 01:02 AM
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Bob, thanks for the support.
I don't expect bluefind to come back sparkling clean in G overnight. I don't think the PR is entirely "whole". Any time a website doesn't even rank for its own domain name, I get to thinking Google doesn't like it a whole lot.
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04-20-2006, 01:54 AM
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JohnScott:
>>>Any time a website doesn't even rank for its own domain name, I get to thinking Google doesn't like it a whole lot.
Ya I saw that also before I posted but I felt that I said enought negitive things so left that one out : )
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04-20-2006, 01:56 AM
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If Google persists in its dislike of BlueFind, I'll just have to do one of the following:
1. Sue Google for every penny they got, or...
2. Move BlueFind's database to a new domain and start fresh.
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04-21-2006, 04:28 AM
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Join Date: 04-12-06
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I don't get it. You guys are the best SEO and have complied to almost everything that is needed for googlebots to find sites. How in the world does Google would DISLIKE a domain unless it is being disliked by a Human.
I am not a pro on these stuff but just makes me wonder ?
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04-21-2006, 04:32 AM
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BlueFind has a history. Some lack of editorial integrity, some duplication, and other things.
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04-21-2006, 04:36 AM
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So do you mean it was penalized for those. But still does not make sense. Its history and supposed to be recognized by its new functions.
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04-21-2006, 04:39 AM
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The penalty was due to BlueFind categories being used on a couple other web directories, and as soon as that was fixed it got PR back. But I still do not put much faith in the BlueFind domain.... Time will tell.
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04-21-2006, 04:48 AM
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Do you have Volunteer Editors on your Directory ?
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04-21-2006, 04:48 AM
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Not on BlueFind, but something else is in the works. 
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04-21-2006, 04:50 AM
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Let me know if you need some help. 
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04-21-2006, 04:50 AM
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Will do. 
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04-25-2006, 11:10 AM
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I had to do the same a John is doing to one of my directories due duplicate content. I changed the link structure and did a Google reinclusion request and in 3 months all was back to normal. Considering a directory submission is in most instances a lifetime listing it’s not that big a deal.
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05-23-2006, 06:59 AM
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Join Date: 01-31-04
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I'm amazed at the honesty and candidness of John. No corporate nonsense here. That's why I'll continue to have faith and submit sites to your network.
All the best 
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05-23-2006, 11:57 AM
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About time it came back 
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05-31-2006, 07:42 AM
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