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Old 05-05-2009, 12:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy LOAD TIMES for website HELP!

Tried posting this here before but cannot find it, so I will retype it.

I just finished a site, and it's all flash. I need advice kind of fast. I did not account for average load time, as I assumed on my uber fast connection that all was well. Well...to my dismay, it seems at least that some people are reporting that it takes nearly 2 minutes to load.

site is http://www.traceymayer.com

I have all the content loading before the homepage shows. It was suggested to me to load sections/content dynamically. I'm thinking that's what I should have done. It's simple enough to do, isn't it? What would you do, load sections dynamically? (should that have been a no brainer?).

Please visit, and tell me how long it takes to load to the homepage and what speed/kind of connection you have. It would really help me a whole lot to know.

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P.S. critiques (be mean if you have to) on the site are welcome.
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Please visit, and tell me how long it takes to load to the homepage and what speed/kind of connection you have. It would really help me a whole lot to know.
Took about 1 minute 30 seconds to load on a 5mbps fiber optic network.
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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wow. are you serious? 1 minute 30 seconds? holy cow. i thought it was a little long to load around 28seconds for me, but hopefully acceptable.

i forgot that i had an 18Mbps + connection.

honestly, what is the web standard for web page loading time? sounds like a newbie question, but I really want to know. To me, the marker is "how long would I want to wait for a site", and for that I might say 10 seconds or so....

so i knew i was pushing it, but over a minute im thinking is far beyond too long (especially on a 5Mbps like yours)....and im guessing that the average user has maybe 1.5 Mbps connection??

anyone else, please chime in and if nothing else, just tell me about how long it takes to load and what connection you have. now im kind of worrying.

what is the web standard so to speak of acceptable loading times?
also, what is currently the average connection speed people have?
what speed should site be designed for?

i really appreciate any and all input.
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Old 05-05-2009, 03:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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don't mean to double post or seem impatient. and i know that several of these views were mine, but there are maybe 10 of you that viewed this, can you please just time the load times (approximate), and tell me how long it loads...

even if you don't know your internet connection speed (although preferred).

thanks.
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contact your hosting provider... or probably the flash you made was to huge to load... or it could due of the scripts that you put into.. make a review to your site..

cable 50mbps took 2 mins..
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yes you are correct. the hosting provider is fine. but I made the website as one whole flash file, so you will not see the main page, until the whole thing is loaded.

my swf is just over 21MB.

difficulty on scale 1-10 (10 being most difficult), how hard would it be to reprogram, or to program it from scratch to have sections load dynamically, as opposed to how it is now?

it is a full flash site, and i understand there are probably tons of full flash sites that load large content like video, hi res images, etc. but those only take mere seconds (maybe 10 at most) on a slower dsl connection at worst; so how long would you say is acceptable (range perhaps) to wait for main page to load??

is there a professional web standard?
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I just finished a site, and it's all flash.
The site is overbuilt, redo it.


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I need advice kind of fast. I did not account for average load time,
When you build a site, a 56k dialup connection should be the standard, not a high speed connection.

The entire home page should be no more then 100k. Some people say the home page should not be anymore then 75k. So whatever it is that you "built", redo it and make it less then 75k or 100k.
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The site is overbuilt, redo it.




When you build a site, a 56k dialup connection should be the standard, not a high speed connection.

The entire home page should be no more then 100k. Some people say the home page should not be anymore then 75k. So whatever it is that you "built", redo it and make it less then 75k or 100k.
wow 100K! if you were to 'push' it, and consider it's done in flash (and it needs to be) what would the limit be size wise?

when a site is built, is it still standard to build around a 56K connection? couldn't you argue that the average connection would be at least 768K now?

thanks for input.
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i really appreciate it bakizoo. thanks. the solution is probably to create the sections to load dynamically, no? as opposed to stuffing all images, menus, etc. in one big container file?
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my swf is just over 21MB.
It took forever to load on my pc You can optimize your site by making a library where you could just call any component from your server, this can really decrease your file and you could make your homepage a real 100kb file or better, less than 75kb. You could just make separate file(which represent as the pages of your site) and from the homepage you just call them if thery're clicked by users...

Here's some good examples ( just for reference)
Dancing Masters Studio
Indian Restaurant

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The site is overbuilt, redo it.

When you build a site, a 56k dialup connection should be the standard, not a high speed connection.
That's what I was gonna say
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21 MB is insane!

Took my 1024kbps connection about 5 minutes to load it. I'll talk to a friend of mine who does flash developing, but I doubt you could bring that to less than 15 MB.
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Wow. That was quite long! I didn't finished opening it. 2mins and still got the loading screen.

I don't think it is a good idea to have this kind of sites. Unless it is an authority site or has a very good reputation and popular. But for a new site, definitely a big NO. People will get bored and will instantly close their window.

Hope you can fix it in some way. Good luck.
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