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View Poll Results: Which do you prefer?
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02-15-2007, 07:29 PM
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Fixed width. Fewer surprises. Fewer smooshed designs. More Happy CRT-tanned surfers. Yay for them!
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02-16-2007, 07:19 AM
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Its easier to design and code a fixed width, but a well designed fluid design as long as it is well done can be much better. The problem is their are too many very badly designed fluid sites about.
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02-16-2007, 02:44 PM
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The Amazing Lizza
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My vote goes to fixed width
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02-17-2007, 02:10 PM
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Ya, fixed for me aswell.
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02-17-2007, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bbutton
Its easier to design and code a fixed width, but a well designed fluid design as long as it is well done can be much better. The problem is their are too many very badly designed fluid sites about.
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I don't even agree here mate. I really don't like the content shifting around as i moved and contract the window. One size for all is just the best way to go about it, in my opinion of course
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02-18-2007, 01:38 AM
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02-18-2007, 04:06 AM
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Don't like any of 'em!
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02-25-2007, 05:12 AM
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Is your dislike for fluid from a designer perspective or an end user perspective? I get the designer angle but not the end user. Could some of use please elaborate I'm extremely interested in hearing your responses.
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02-25-2007, 05:19 AM
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Welcome to v7n, GrayWolf! Happy to have you here.
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02-25-2007, 05:25 AM
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Here's how I do fluid 3 column and get the body first easy-peesy
HTML Code:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<head>
<title>Page Title</title>
<style type="text/css">
/*** The Layout Styles ***/
html {background:#fff;}
body {background: #fff;padding:0; margin:0;}
#header{position:absolute;top:0;clear:both;height:150px;margin:5px 25px;width:93%; }
#content {position:absolute;float:left;text-align:left;left:250px;right:250px !important; right:190px;}
#menu{position:relative;margin-left:0px;width:200px;float:left;text-align:left;}
#feat{position:relative;right:0px;width:200px;float:right;text-align:left;}
#footer {position:static;font-size:xx-small;text-align:center;clear:both;}
#container{margin-top:155px;float:left;width:100%;}
#wrap{margin:0 25px;width:95%;}
/*** Main Decoration and Color ***/
body {font-family:verdana,arial,sans-serif,serif;font-size:small;}
#header{background:#fff;}
#content {clear:both;}
#container{}
#feat{}
#menu{margin-bottom:100px;}
#footer{color:#000;border-top:1px solid #ccc;}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div id='wrap'>
<div id='container'>
<div id="content" >
This is the main body content
</div>
<div id='menu'>
This is the left column
</div>
<div id='feat'>
This is the right column
</div>
<div id="header">
This is the header section
</div>
</div>
<div class='clr'></div>
<div id="footer">
This is the footer information
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>
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02-25-2007, 05:44 AM
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Depends on the site. For blog/news sites, a fluid design (done right) can be a good idea. Users with more screen area can read more w/o scrolling.
There would need to be a max-width, though because a completely fluid design can look absolutely horrible on larger resolutions.
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02-25-2007, 06:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John Scott
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveyBoy
Don't like any of 'em! 
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I'm with DB on this one.  It's personal preference.
Quote:
Originally Posted by graywolf
Is your dislike for fluid from a designer perspective or an end user perspective? I get the designer angle but not the end user. Could some of use please elaborate I'm extremely interested in hearing your responses.
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Both.
I don't like things shifting around form page to page. I either use a 19" wit 1280 width or a laptop with 1024 width - that's a lot of horizontal reading. Another thing is that I like to see the page as the designer had intended it to be seen - no surprises.
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02-25-2007, 08:04 AM
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Voted FIXED... Because fixed templates look good on all resolutions
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02-25-2007, 10:06 AM
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Another thing is that I like to see the page as the designer had intended it to be seen - no surprises.
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Well if I paid for a 19" monitor I want 19" of content not 17" with some blank space. :-)
Not saying I don't use fixed width, but it's only when I want to "guide" and "focus" the users eyes to adsense/product/buy button.
Wonders if there is some preference correlation between liquid/fixed and the black bars on widescreen movies shown regular sized TV's?
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02-25-2007, 10:29 AM
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Well if I paid for a 19" monitor I want 19" of content not 17" with some blank space. :-)
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Exactly my feelings.
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02-26-2007, 07:27 AM
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Fixed. Most of the time my layouts are graphical and intricate and a fluid design just restricts me. I go with fixed whenever I can
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02-26-2007, 07:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by graywolf
Well if I paid for a 19" monitor I want 19" of content not 17" with some blank space. :-)
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I used my larger monitor as a large workspace, not as a larger browser space. Who on earth with their right mind would maximize browser windows on a 19"?
It's like printed books; they are usually made narrower than they are tall for a reason. You shouldn't have to move your head each time you read a line of content.
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02-26-2007, 07:52 AM
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Who on earth with their right mind would maximize browser windows on a 19"
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Well if you gave me 19" of content in a liquid layout I'd get more info on the screen and have less scrolling than your fixed width design :-P
Applications like GMail and Google reader which are full width allow me to scan/view more headlines without having to scroll.
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02-26-2007, 08:12 AM
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So you'd rather use two hands to read a newspaper than a couple of fingers to read a book?
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02-26-2007, 08:24 AM
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But it's a screen not a newspaper, you can read a full width page on 19" without moving your head pretty easily
FLUID STILL SUCKS!
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