Who are you really?

[LazyJim]

It is a gowing trend to speciallise in one or more area's of web design. This might be a good idea, and is based on the fact there there is so much involved in proffessional web design that you can't possibly do it all - or if you do, you probably aren't good enough at all of it because you've spread yourself too thin.

While the following article in "Web Designer for Designers" does not, in my opinion cover all the facets of web design, it does have many valid points and i recommend it.
http://www.wpdfd.com/editorial/wpd0303.htm#feature

My recent attempts to stop graphic designers calling themselves web designers is abstractly covered, but also the author covers the problem of non-skilled artists calling themselves graphic desingers.

[DaveyBoy]

why do you care so much about it? I couldn't care less what category i fall into mate.

[John Scott]

Good topic for discussion here. I'll try to read those today, Jim.

[Jazzee]

Originally Posted by DaveyBoy

why do you care so much about it? I couldn't care less what category i fall into mate.

ditto.

[Jazzee]

I know what I can do and what I can't do. Who cares what I am called.

[John Scott]

non-skilled artists calling themselves graphic desingers.

And web design firms calling themselves SEO's or Internet marketing professionals.

[DaveyBoy]

ah i see, JS has taken it personally

[John Scott]

Even hosting people calling themselves SEO's.

[DaveyBoy]

how do you know they can't do it though?

you are a hosting company, well one of your services is hosting and you provide SEO also. Maybe they have a geezer there who can do it too.

[LazyJim]

Originally Posted by Jazzee

I know what I can do and what I can't do. Who cares what I am called.

because people use the name to guess what you can and can't do.

They care what you are called if you pretend to be something you're not.

You also project an image of yourself and your abilities and the first thing they have to go on is what you are called.

[LazyJim]

how do you know they can't do it though?

Yes that's another point I'm starting to think about, the answer is this...
I don't know they can't do it, for the same reason I don't know they can do it. That reason is all the wrongly named people removing/diluting/plluting the meaning and rep of those names.

[DaveyBoy]

i still couldn't give a monkeys

the money rolls in, and i enjoy what i do.

I'm not gonna start thinking about what i am.

[ATLien]

Where I plan to make my money is in overall web design. No specifics, I am good at creating templetes and i know how to make a site. I know html and baisc php so I really don't specialize in anything, I can do graphics but I am not amazing. If I ever get a design request for something i feel i can't do with great sucess i wont do it, I will contract the work out. I am not the type of web designer who has to do everything, I am not afraid to use premade scripts while leaving the copyright, I only want people to use my services for stuff I know I can do.

[LazyJim]

Originally Posted by DaveyBoy

i still couldn't give a monkeys

the money rolls in, and i enjoy what i do.

I'm not gonna start thinking about what i am.

Good for you on the money, I'm glad

well I'm confident then when I eventually "open up shop" that the money will start rolling my way too.

We have been brought up and educated to think of design as different things, I think, or at least from a different stand point.

[LazyJim]

Originally Posted by ATLien

Where I plan to make my money is in overall web design. No specifics, I am good at creating templetes and i know how to make a site. I know html and baisc php so I really don't specialize in anything, I can do graphics but I am not amazing. If I ever get a design request for something i feel i can't do with great sucess i wont do it, I will contract the work out. I am not the type of web designer who has to do everything, I am not afraid to use premade scripts while leaving the copyright, I only want people to use my services for stuff I know I can do.

Great, that's a similar service to waht I wan't to offer, apart from I'd much prefer to make my own scripts, or at least only use scripts I understand fully.

I don't know if you know how to Design how I concider 'properly', so I don't know if you take everything important into account, or indeed correctly work out what is and isn't important.

My view of design includes extra stages building up to and trailing after the creative and construction stages. As far as I can tell no-one else here shares this view, at least not explicitly anyway.

[ATLien]

Originally Posted by LazyJim

Great, that's a similar service to waht I wan't to offer, apart from I'd much prefer to make my own scripts, or at least only use scripts I understand fully.

I don't know if you know how to Design how I concider 'properly', so I don't know if you take everything important into account, or indeed correctly work out what is and isn't important.

My view of design includes extra stages building up to and trailing after the creative and construction stages. As far as I can tell no-one else here shares this view, at least not explicitly anyway.

I don't just design, I put very much time in to the build up and the completion stages of a site. I feel I cover all the important areas, and consider all the not so important ares.

[LazyJim]

Good i'm glad, and I'm sure it works.

Later i'll outline all the stages of what I concider design, (seems like I should have done this before a lot of the topics I havs started!), then we'll compare.

[Gede]

Philosophical reply to Jims identity crises.

You are what you are found on.

[LazyJim]

Great Philosophical reply, - but er, I don't get it