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Old 04-05-2004, 01:28 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I dont think this is a matter of good design or bad design, its a matter of supply and demand. If they're willing to supply websites for people at 30K, and people are willing to buy them, then i would too! Companies that spend tons of money each year may be willing to pay that much because it may no be that much money to them, now i wouldn't expect your local donut shop to pick up one of these sites, but you know what i mean. If no one was buying the sites, then they'd lower the prices, but if they're buying, then they'll keep supplying.
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Old 04-05-2004, 01:52 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I am a designer myself, and I can tell you that the design and the development is well worth 30k. The only reason people look down upon it now and say its NOT worth that money is because there are so many kids in the industry that will do the job for a couple hundred, which will probably end up being a rip or "highly inspired" design of someone elses site.
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Old 04-05-2004, 05:15 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I am a designer myself, and I can tell you that the design and the development is well worth 30k. The only reason people look down upon it now and say its NOT worth that money is because there are so many kids in the industry that will do the job for a couple hundred, which will probably end up being a rip or "highly inspired" design of someone elses site.
Agreed somewhat. Difference is, some clients understand this and are willing to pay for quality, while others expect a 30k site on a $300 budget. You still have to be able to differentiate your quality from the next guy, as the quality is a value added service.
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Old 04-05-2004, 06:52 PM   #24 (permalink)
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What you also have to understand is that the design of the site may be a big factor, but its also most of the back-end work that is costing a lot of money.
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No, I completely understand the work involved on all angles of a project.

I am saying value is perception. Why do you pay 20k for a car? Why do you pay 250k for a house? It depends on your perception of the value of the property. That is what determines somethings "worth". It has nothing to do with what another designer or developer would charge. It has to do with what you can get for your time, and how you market your value to your client.

If you market the value added as quality, and you deliver, and your client is satisified, then the project was worth 30k. Doesn't make a hill of beans if some "kid" would knock off the design for 100 dollars, because you are driving the value, and not your competitors, because you got the project.
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30k for that site. They must love their sales staff! Don't have to do too many of those type of sites at those prices to make any sale projections for the year.
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Far too many kıds act as webdesıgners. Some stupıd 15 year olds make some crap and then theır a pro desıgner lmao Ö

That's a good point, but also you can take it the other way, like many people thing design is just the bit where you create the graphics, clearly $30k is far to much for just the web site graphics! But there's a million more things in 'design' (maybe some of them you consider to be 'research') that shoul dbe done and they may be able to reach $30k (although I doubt they actually do much more than a bit of information structure, graphics, and database stuff so I bet it IS grossly over-priced)!
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