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Old 03-31-2004, 07:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Worth $30K?

http://ceonex.com/

These guys charge upwards of $30k.

A few of their sites:

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http://www.lunarpages.com/
http://www.hostreflex.com/

I'm not saying the designs are bad. I'm just not thinking they are anything special. I've never thought LunarPages was an attractive design. Looking through the sites, a lot of them look like half the websites on the Internet. I guess I'm saying their designs lack the level of artistic originality and/or vision that would warrant a $30,000 price tag.
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Old 03-31-2004, 07:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Great designer

Not 30k great though
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Old 03-31-2004, 07:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I mean, some of that stuff looks like TemplateMonster.com stuff you can pick up for $50.
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Old 03-31-2004, 08:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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he is selling to hosting companies like lunar pages though. what do you expect? they will just rip their customers off a little more to cover the bill, they dont care
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He seems to have an obsession with flash, not sure if its a healthy obsession but hey I hate flash..!
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Old 04-01-2004, 03:57 AM   #6 (permalink)
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and JS yeah i think $30k (£16k) is well over the top, depending on the work they did behind the scenes, design is not just the skin or the code!
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Old 04-01-2004, 04:12 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I think those designs are indeed from templatemonster inspired one.
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Nice sites! Bit expensive though. I don't see any particular reason to hate Flash The obtrusive use of it maybe. But if you understood the potential of it you wouldn't hate it. I also think many designers who hate Flash; can't use it.
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They do look like Templatemonster's templates But maybe they're more involved. Not just the PSD and HTML. Also they're bespoke. The thing is, a lot of hosting companies sites all look the same. One of the most original is 2advanced.net!
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btw how much do 2advanced charge?
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Nice designs, but no way 30k lol. Maybe $100 :-p
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Holy crap, 30K US?! That's crazzzzzzzzy.

Just out of curiosity, what is the average price firms charge to design sites? Does anyone know? I'm learning as much as I can so i can design sites and earn some cash while I'm in college... is it usual to charge 30K and actually have customers?! Dayyym...
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Holy crap, 30K US?! That's crazzzzzzzzy.

Just out of curiosity, what is the average price firms charge to design sites? Does anyone know? I'm learning as much as I can so i can design sites and earn some cash while I'm in college... is it usual to charge 30K and actually have customers?! Dayyym...
Prices vary a lot. 30K is definitely not usual. People charge anywhere from $100 - $5000 usually, depending on what is involved with the project.
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Holy crap, 30K US?! That's crazzzzzzzzy.

Just out of curiosity, what is the average price firms charge to design sites? Does anyone know? I'm learning as much as I can so i can design sites and earn some cash while I'm in college... is it usual to charge 30K and actually have customers?! Dayyym...
Prices vary a lot. 30K is definitely not usual. People charge anywhere from $100 - $5000 usually, depending on what is involved with the project.
Thats pretty accurate. I know a Canadian company envision something, they charge around $5000, quite good sites too
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Jeeze 30k, around 10k would be the max cost imo.
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30K is a lot of cash to put a site together. Maybe if it's super involved for some huge company... but these people don't cater exclusively to large companies. I suppose they get people with money to burn who are too lazy to see if there's anywhere cheaper.
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They've also mastered the fine art of BS. They make their site sound all fancy with their stupid 3-steps "Prospect, Convert, Retain"... I guess people go for that. Personally I'd skip the fancy pretentious stuff and just say what service I'm offering and what I can do.
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Well, one thing is for sure. They certainly know how to design a good website.
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They are worth what they get. Value is all perception anyway
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Good point...
The designs are fantastic, I'm not doubting that... but that price is just way over the top... but then again, a product is only worth what some moron pays for it, and if someone paid that much for it, then it is clearly worth that.
I would personally value that work at about $10,000 / £5,000 tops,
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