Michael Kane Attacking Freelancers

[Henri]

I have every right to assume things after your posts above, i did not accuse you, i just said what was on my mind, free country, also I could care less if you are loosing your patience but the fact that you replied to the post with out mentioning anything I said about Michael, must prove something, you can't defend him because he's wrong

oh and you know you can red rep me as much as you want people in the end will see I have a point and will stop michael kane from giving freelancers a bad name

[Cricket]

You will either post and debate with respect, or you will not post again. This is my one and only warning to you.

[Henri]

Ok well this is what i have to say.
Michael thinks just because he has landed big projects before that he can trample over us freelancers.
He clearly thinks most of us don't know how to design and the rest being untruthful.

So i will debate with respect, cricket, honestly what do you think of his post and how he talks about freelancers as if they were bad people.

[Cricket]

Respectfully, I could have just as easily written that article, and in fact, I warn small business owners every single day to be careful of who they choose to do business with. That is just common sense. It is not saying that ALL freelancers are a problem, nor is it saying they are bad people. It is simply saying there is an up and coming problem here. To deny there is a problem is simply about naive as anyone can get.

It would be like someone writing an article telling folks to be a bit cautious of their mechanic, because the fact is, that there are some mechanics out there that take advantage of people. That does not mean that ALL mechanics do, but you still have to be willing to check into the background of folks and their work, in order to protect yourself.

[sitetutor]

One thing I know is that with Michael Kane, you get excellent work. With freelance designers, you get some good, but many bad who will leave you hanging after they get a little bit tired. Seriously, Michael´s comments were deadon to say the least. Especially this one:

There is no room to trust your gut instinct when it comes to hiring a freelance designer, just go with the facts and what you see in front of you. Reputation plays a big role, so do past projects, check and check again, get a phone number if you can, check the contact page on their portfolio for an address. Only then can you be sure that you’re getting what you paid for!

[Cricket]

For what is is worth, Michael is a freelance designer.

[Henri]

Yes ok thats cool but there is a right way and a wrong way, he could have said just know the designer before you work with him. No he had to go the long way slapping every freelancer in sight just to get his point out that we're all bad.

So you had nothing to say about his blog on forums and how he attacks people in that too
thats what he does best, attacks people who dont have a voice like his online or clients to back them up one day he'll get whats coming to him and will realize that we're better than him

[Cricket]

Are you just hell bent on finding something, anything you can find to attack Michael Kane today? Good lord, there is an article on my site too that discusses being very cautious of who you listen to in a forum.

You need to relax and stop taking things so personally. Chill and enjoy life.

[Henri]

Originally Posted by kristeejo

Why do you care that he hates freelancers? I don't get it? so what?

Do you even read the first post in topics? I do not care that he hates them, i care that he attacks them, and tries to give them a bad name.

Cricket, michael kane is anything but a freelance designer, he owns his own design company so he's just someone who wants to find ways of attacking freelancers that's all. I really can't believe you peoplen I have better things to do than attack him, it's him whos attacking us

[Cricket]

I am a freelancer and I do not feel attacked. A freelancer is someone that works for themself. Now, I am done with this topic. You have said what you wanted to say, so now it is time to move on.

A freelancer or freelance worker is a person who pursues a profession without a long-term commitment to any one employer. The term was first coined by Sir Walter Scott (1771-1832) in his well-known historical romance Ivanhoe to describe a "medieval mercenary warrior. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freelancer

[Julie]

Originally Posted by Henri

Are you blind, you call the how to draw a line tutorial an actuall tutorial.
he wont ever share his skill with anyone and instead use it against people thinking he will get away with it just because he has some big clients or something.
Anyway, my point is why let a designer who has been in it longer than others come along and hurt the rep of new comers?

Crickat so its ok in your opinion, for a designer to ruin the names of other designer just because they are further ahead in the game? I don't see any logic to that. You know many people will be hurt if michael kane keeps at this and him TELLING CLIENTS they should ask for an address and phone number? What if I don't want to give them my personal details, why should I trust them? I am an online freelance designer might even live with my family or parents, why should I have to say this to a client.

He is trying to cause us harm and it is clrea if you read between the lines.

He's done more than "how to draw a line". You want him to share his skills? What? I think he probably put a lot of hard work and effort into learning the things he did, and I'm pretty sure he went to college for it also. No one's stopping you from doing the same.

And yes, I think you should be able to find out their address. I don't do design work so much, more so freelance writing, but all of my clients know how to get ahold of me other than just through electronic means.

His post simply warns people to be cautious, and gives tips on how to find a good freelancer. There are a lot of fraudsters and two-bit hacks out there. And, quite frankly... how is he so "mean" to freelancers when he himself uses them?

His post was not malicious nor ill-willed, but for whatever reason it struck a cord with you. Could it be because your skills are not up to par? That you can't get the good clients? That maybe you're JEALOUS? I am a freelancer myself, and I don't feel attacked. Rather, I think he raises some very good points.

[kristeejo]

I'm a freelancer and I'd have to agree that many of us aren't that "reliable."

[phlegm]

Henri,

I would like to inform you that, having read all of your posts, I would certainly not hire you to do any freelance design work for me.

1. You are basically illiterate, which is never a good sign.
2. Your increasingly shrill, hissy fit temper tantrums are not conducive to professional business practice.
3. I have yet to see or critique any of your portfolio, or perhaps your work is done off the back of these $100 and $200 contests that I've seen littering these forums?

Perhaps you could post an example of your splendid freelance work that will not make me vomit uncontrollably.

I'll wait.

*smirk*

[ABell]

I wont even begin to tell you how good a designer Michael is man, you know it, as well as I do, that sooner or later, however hard Mikey tries to keep his work and clients private because he hates the fuss, the design radar will pick his ass up, and when that happens, you will eat your words and accusations along with 4 fingers and a toe.

Hey retardendo, Mikey is telling clients that freelancers are still a good choice to make. He's clarifying that we're not all bad, and your upset , go hurt yourself, go on, go lock yourself in a padded room and hurt yourself.

[Dan Williamson]

Wow. My maturity has gone down three levels at some of the replies in this thread. First of all to avoid flaming I will say this. I have never heard of this Michael Kane and I am not a designer whether working in print, graphical or web of any kind.

Reading the article I find it quite useful, obviously Michael Kane has worked with some awful freelancers or perhaps merely seen them in work and he has every right to feel this way, only I feel he should justify it more in-depth but from what he has wrote it is 99.9% correct. To work in freelance you must have:

-- Skills of the subject and project which you have undertaken.
-- Excellent communication skills.
-- Patience, without this you are 100% going to fail.
-- Dedication

I have done design work for people, but generally free and not high-class like some people will do as I cannot design well, I am someone he is speaking about when he says

So many kids are popping up these days calling them selves designers, just because they downloaded a 30 day trail of Photoshop and have a couple fonts under their belt to flash at client in an attempt to impress them.

I started out with Adobe Photoshop 7.0 and downloaded fonts and brushes and thought I was the most skilled artist ever, but I never was and generally I began to understand this.

There is no room to trust your gut instinct when it comes to hiring a freelance designer, just go with the facts and what you see in front of you. Reputation plays a big role, so do past projects, check and check again, get a phone number if you can, check the contact page on their portfolio for an address. Only then can you be sure that you’re getting what you paid for!

This paragraph shows both intelligence and common sense, if you don't do this then you are probably going to end up with a dud of a designer and that is pointless.

Henri. You're getting all hot and bothered about this, going as far to post your open-criticism of an obviously experienced and skilled designer on a popular web development forum, that just isn't smart, I believe you said that you're a freelancer, I do hope not as you cannot type, you have zero patience and you are argumentative, that attitude is not productive to freelancing.

Good article, and I love the header image on that site.

[Cricket]

A gentle reminder to everyone (myself included) to do our best to state our thoughts and opinions in a respectful manner. Thank you for understanding.



Dan, your response was excellent. Thank you.

[EdC]

Henri

I didn't see anywhere he personally attacked you.

If you truly feel like this, just think how you are passing this on to your clients. Personal persona is reflected in everything you do.

Your attitude reflects your insecurity with this individuals opinion and this is only an opinion.

Lets face it some people do great work, some do ok work and others just are bad at what they do. This is life.

So as it has been said before you need to mature.

Ed

[stewart]

You know I have to comment really quick on this...

I agree with the small quotes posted, there are too many people out there calling themselves designers and offering extremely cheap services cutting out many talented developers ;D just my..