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12-28-2007, 01:43 AM
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Please advise me how to build webpages
I have frontpage and dreamweaver. Can someone give me the lowdown on how to build a website? Is there a site that tells you how to do it, and simple to understand. I need it to be real simple to understand. I can create the pages, its the make it all work in hostrocket that I have a problem doing.
Thanks
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12-28-2007, 03:00 AM
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I'd recommend learning a bit of HTML, http://w3schools.com is a great place to start (read the basic HTML and CSS guides).
Start there, and be sure to show us your works! We can help tell you what looks good and give you constructive criticism!
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12-28-2007, 05:16 AM
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Hi Torner,
You might want to try out Lisa's site at www.2createawebsite.com , she has put together some good info for first time webmaster.
Hope that helps.
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12-28-2007, 02:30 PM
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I too am a beginner website "designer" and found a couple of books on DW to help in what you are asking about. The latest CS3 suite has a set of "classroom in a book" series made by adobe, as well I found Macromedia DW 8 "how to". The W3C site is a great tool as well...good luck !! Look forward to seeing your designs.
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12-28-2007, 03:35 PM
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There are tons of info on the net on how to build a website. My advice is to start simple and learn some basic html. rhyswynne mentioned w3schools and here is a direct link to some basics http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_primary.asp - Anyway, using Frontpage and Dreamweaver you can build a website/page without any knowledge of html. I am not familier with Frontpage, but with Dreamweaver you can create and save a page as a template (file/save as template). Next time you wish to add a page to your site you just open the template and add desired content,
This is an ok way to do it for a small site, but if you are planning a big web site you should learn about SSI (server side included) or use a php/asp content management system. The main thing is to get started and learn.
Good luck 
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12-28-2007, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Goldjobber
I too am a beginner website "designer" and found a couple of books on DW to help in what you are asking about. The latest CS3 suite has a set of "classroom in a book" series made by adobe, as well I found Macromedia DW 8 "how to". The W3C site is a great tool as well...good luck !! Look forward to seeing your designs.
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DW is the way to go (if you ever want to become professional, DW/Fireworks is the tools I use). However, it is vital you understand HTML too, so that when things go wrong, you can solve this 
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04-13-2008, 07:02 PM
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U'll get lots of nice tutorials out there teaching u how to make a site. There's one thing that I just want to tell from my side which might be of use to u. it's not the software that matters in making a website. I fu understand what is a website, whether u use frontpage or dreamweaver doesn't make much of a difference.
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04-15-2008, 08:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Torner
I have frontpage and dreamweaver. Can someone give me the lowdown on how to build a website? Is there a site that tells you how to do it, and simple to understand. I need it to be real simple to understand. I can create the pages, its the make it all work in hostrocket that I have a problem doing.
Thanks
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Hi Toner,
Well, you're about to launch into a brave new world, and you're either going to LOVE IT, or you're going to pull all of your hair out and try to choke yourself to death with it, LOL!
Seriously, though, there can be quite a lot that goes into "building a web site" -- the most essential issue is what do you want the site to do. But I'm going to assume that for now, all you are looking to do is to build a relatively simple site with static ( no content driven by data in a database, etc. ) web site.
The very first thing I'd advise you on is to understand the difference between design and markup.
Design typically starts with a map of what the content needs to be - from home page on down through the site to whatever your "most wanted response" is ( typically one starts a web site because they want some sort of response -- like sign up for a mailing list, comment on content {like a blog}, or "buy now" ). That is, typically a web site has a purpose, and one needs to structure their site to fulfill that purpose.
Now for the fun part of design . . . What will it look like?
Typically that is mocked up graphically, and certainly there will be a fair amount of graphic content to be developed ( at the very least a logo and a banner, but typically all kinds of little graphic elements right down to how you might want your bullets to appear on bulletted lists ). For this aspect of building a web site you need a graphics program ( such as Photoshop or PaintShop Pro -- or maybe even ULead's PhotoImpact { very nice at the entry-level } ) and some skills to use it. . . . or you have a friend who is adept at this.
Next, this look of the site needs to be rendered as a theme of some sort for your web site.
Let me pause on that and jump to markup at this point. Markup is the "M" in HTML -- it is the essential code of a web page. It should really be used these days for nothing more than structuring a document ( there's quite a bit to learn there, but http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_primary.asp is as good a place as any to start ); the look of the site should be handled via Cascading Style Sheets ( CSS ) these days so that you are ultimately creating file with markup via XHTML and layout via CSS.
That's probably a lot to swallow, but here's were is gets easier: use a good editor such as DreamWeaver or Expression Web ( forget FrontPage; it's antequated, and even the last version of it wasn't that great; Microsoft has replaced FrontPage with Expression Web -- a very nice editor designed for current web standards { XHTML & CSS }, and really easy to learn how to use -- what's more, an upgrade from any version of FrontPage is only ~ $90 . . . recommend looking on Amazon.com ).
Editors such as these enable you to use a "WYSIWYG" ( What You See Is What You Get ) editor that rather aproximates what your page will really look like in a browser while you are working on it . . . but without you really having to know what the code is that is making it look like that.
One can get started that way . . . but I could not possibly impress on you enough that you would do well to start learning the code these editors are writing for you -- XHTML and CSS . . . you will find that eventually you really will need to understand this relatively simple coding so that you have control over your content . . . TRUST ME!
And this is just the entry-level basics 
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04-20-2008, 12:09 PM
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Hey Torner:
Throw away frontpage and dreamweaver. They produce scripts that are twice the size of a text editor prepared page. By the time you master these, you could have learned to wright real code.
Read 10 books on (x)html.
Read 9 books on javascript.
Read 8 books on CSS.
Read 7 books on Apache.
Read 6 books on SQL.
Read 5 books on UNIX.
Then, you will have the lowdown on how to build a website.
ZipLabor
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04-20-2008, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Torner
I can create the pages, its the make it all work in hostrocket that I have a problem doing.
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Hostrocket says that you have an Advanced Control Panel. In most cases, you should be able to use the Control Panel to transfer your pages to your site. You need to access the File Manager and transfer the web pages you have created to your web site at Hostrocket.
I do not use Frontpage, but I know that it has a built-in FTP. You can use this to transfer your already made web pages to your site at Hostrocket.
You can also download WSFTP and use that to transfer your web pages to your web site at Hostrocket.
Get more HTML help here:
http://www.v7n.com/forums/web-design...tutorials.html
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04-21-2008, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by James Bryan Menke
Hey Torner:
Throw away frontpage and dreamweaver. They produce scripts that are twice the size of a text editor prepared page. By the time you master these, you could have learned to wright real code.
Read 10 books on (x)html.
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. . . etc.
While I am totally in agreement with the "spirit" of James's post here . . . "buckle down and learn the really goods on website development" ( if I may paraphrase ) . . . I don't think that's what you are looking for here.
Don't throw away DreamWeaver or FrontPage ( but do upgrade your FrontPage to Expresssion Web ). Everyone has to start somewhere. You will make a mess of things here and there, but nothing like James suggests. And then you will learn from those mistakes. You simply can't just jump from "help me to learn how to build a website" to "but perfectly, the first time around" without skinning your knees!
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04-21-2008, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jump
Hostrocket says that you have an Advanced Control Panel. In most cases, you should be able to use the Control Panel to transfer your pages to your site. You need to access the File Manager and transfer the web pages you have created to your web site at Hostrocket.
I do not use Frontpage, but I know that it has a built-in FTP. You can use this to transfer your already made web pages to your site at Hostrocket.
You can also download WSFTP and use that to transfer your web pages to your web site at Hostrocket.
Get more HTML help here:
http://www.v7n.com/forums/web-design...tutorials.html
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Actually, FrontPage does not use FTP. It uses "My NetWork Places" on Win98, Win2000, and XP. On Vista, it's a different ball of wax altogether . . . let me know if you need assistance on this.
What's more, if you have used any FrontPage components or "web bots", you will need to Publish your site from some location to your remote server to get that stuff to work . . . let me know if you need assistance on this.
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04-21-2008, 11:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Torner
I have frontpage and dreamweaver. Can someone give me the lowdown on how to build a website? Is there a site that tells you how to do it, and simple to understand. I need it to be real simple to understand. I can create the pages, its the make it all work in hostrocket that I have a problem doing.
Thanks
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m8 I would advise you to first use Wordpress or Joomla..
Trust me you'll there learn a lot about html..after few months consider making your own site..
trust me....It's going to be too hard for now
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04-22-2008, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Sean@WMS
Actually, FrontPage does not use FTP. It uses "My NetWork Places" on Win98, Win2000, and XP. On Vista, it's a different ball of wax altogether . . . let me know if you need assistance on this.
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Does this mean that FrontPage will transfer the files from the client side to the server side?
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04-22-2008, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jump
Does this mean that FrontPage will transfer the files from the client side to the server side?
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Yes, using its "Publish" functionality.
However, if you don't use any "FrontPagey" stuff like Shared Borders or any of it's themes or web bots ( that is, if you just develop the site with standard code rather than any of Microsoft's alternate versions of standard code ), then you can just as well use FTP -- or you can just open your site on the remote server and simply copy files from Windows Explorer to your "Folder View" in FrontPage, or do the same from Windows Explorer to the remote server in My Network Places.
There are many ways to get files up to your server via FrontPage extensions, but if you are using any "FrontPagey" stuff, then the only reliable option is to Publish via FrontPage from your local to your remote.
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04-26-2008, 09:08 PM
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I stand corrected (blush)
However, in my experience, one is better to use an MS Windows network connection, such as My Network Places, most esp. when one is using FrontPage's non-standard code stuff like shared borders, and any of their web bots. Otherwise, FTP works just fine with FrontPage . . . I've just never used their Publish wizard for this.
Using FTP is the number one cause of braking FrontPage extensions on the remote server.
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04-28-2008, 07:02 AM
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just practice everyday and always read topics about making webpages... i also advice you to visit w3schools for some quick pointers 
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05-01-2008, 01:10 AM
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arcel is right.w3schools is better to learn for beginners and go for articles and web based topics help u to make web site.
web development
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05-02-2008, 07:14 PM
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Why not use one of the rapid development tools like Weebly. They will give you a decent looking website in an hour or less. Then you'll get the hang of editing them, which will give you a good start as well.
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