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Old 01-13-2008, 09:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Looking for advice for a page title

Hi all,

I've been on a big break. I decided the blog wasn't for me awhile ago and I closed it out. I wanted to open it to get the information I had on it but I'm having problems, so anyways, I am going to just start from scratch.

The information is for the LCI (L) 538, it was amphibious Landing Craft in the United States Navy that landed in Normandy on D Day in WWII. The ship landed troops for the invasion on Easy Red Beach, where the United States had the most casualties. The LCI L Stands for Landing Craft Infantry Large and 538 is the ship number. The ships back then of this type weren't name like Destroyers, Cruisers and Aircraft Carriers.

Anyways, I have all the information on the ship I could get from one of my dads shipmates as they were on the ship together at Normandy. I have old news articles, history, pictures, and found out how to get the ships logs, and got the logs from the week of D Day. And he also told me some really neat stuff on the phone when we've talked, he's awesome.

Alot of information that I have is no where on the internet at all, and I wanted to share it on the website, figuring there might be others with dads or grandfathers that served on this vessel and can't find any info, just like me a few years ago.

My question is, what would be the best Page Title so it might be better when people are searching. I know for keywords I want some of these: Landing Craft Infantry, LCI 538, LCIL, LCI (L), WWII, World War Two, Navy, USN, United States Navy, Invasion, Normandy, France, Naval, Ship, Landing Vessel or stuff like this.

Page title is challenging me, I'm can't even remember what I used to type when I was researching trying to find it in searches. Most of the information I got was from the shipmate of my dad. And if you're into that kind of history stuff, it's really interesting info that I have.

Anyone got any suggestions ? If you do, please please post them. I'd love to have some pages on the site that show up in the search for this genre, so I can share the information with others.

I'm more confused because our website is more categories of items we sell, and this is more a specilized topic and very specific. So I'm not sure on how to approach this and I want it done right. A tribute from me to my dad and the shipmates he served with.

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Old 01-14-2008, 12:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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This is just a piece of advice I once got told and it's that the first three words of your page title are the most important for SEO so you might want to take that into consideration but also don't have something really generic in, i.e. WWII as a word because that's gonna be on millions of pages and it'll take you ages to become highly ranked at the word, so you must choose something more specific that isn't listed.

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I have old news articles, history, pictures, and found out how to get the ships logs, and got the logs from the week of D Day. And he also told me some really neat stuff on the phone when we've talked, he's awesome.

My question is, what would be the best Page Title so it might be better when people are searching. I know for keywords I want some of these: Landing Craft Infantry, LCI 538, LCIL, LCI (L), WWII, World War Two, Navy, USN, United States Navy, Invasion, Normandy, France, Naval, Ship, Landing Vessel or stuff like this.
It looks like you will have more than one page at the site. Therefore, you will be able to target many key-phrases because you will have many pages.

I feel it is more important to:

- Select a domain name that fits all your categories.
- Build lots of content pages.
- Get one way links.

Don't fret about the title. You can change that anytime. On the other hand, if you got no links pointing to your site, the best title in the world won't get you much traffic.
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Old 01-14-2008, 06:28 AM   #4 (permalink)
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It looks like you will have more than one page at the site. Therefore, you will be able to target many key-phrases because you will have many pages.

I feel it is more important to:

- Select a domain name that fits all your categories.
- Build lots of content pages.
- Get one way links.

Don't fret about the title. You can change that anytime. On the other hand, if you got no links pointing to your site, the best title in the world won't get you much traffic.
Oops my bad, I should've been more specific. The website has been up for a few years. I just wanted to add this information to it, I'm sure it will be a few pages at least, but since we sell things and have information pages on collecting the things we sell, this would be different, than the other pages.

So domain name is kind of a done deal already
Content is there, and this should be rich in content.
Links might be a problem, oh well. I used to have alot of links, then about 1 1/2 yrs ago I changed the page urls to more fit the pages from blah blah blah catalog.o.1.html to Ford-Car-Brochures.html, did redirects but lost all the inbound links of course and page rank.

Thanks for the advice, its appreciated.
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But changing your title regularly is bad because the next time you get indexed you've lost that phrase from before and it starts again... just losing you time. I will demonstrate this if you like... Title is important, as if you search for something like 'SEO services' in google. the Top ranker's page Title will be ' SEO services'. Therefore if you want your title ot match phrases quicker and more efficiently then pick one that you're going to stick with.

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Right Boogle, it is better to think the best before you proceed...Also think for the title that has broad idea to your theme so that you can have a lot of specific post regarding to your title....
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I was thinking for the first page Landing Craft Infantry 538 Normandy D Day
And then for the rest of the pages, depending on the theme of the page, like training, manufacture, specs, crew, d day log day 1 etc.
After the invasion, etc.

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They will be good titles so long as your target audience will be searching for such specific terms. If you have a few different pages that are all inter-linked don't be afraid to be specific on some pages and broader on others.

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But changing your title regularly is bad
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to mean, "if you think a title isn't working or the correct one then you can change it anytime and it won't affect anything. If that was said where i'm from, which it probably wouldn't it would mean this. Apologies for offence Jump.

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i interpreted the phrase, to mean, "if you think a title isn't working or the correct one then you can change it anytime and it won't affect anything. If that was said where i'm from, which it probably wouldn't it would mean this.
My first reply was based on the information supplied in the first post in this thread.

My apologies to the group for getting off-topic.

Having said all that, right or wrong, i will and do change page titles if:

1. If i feel i can do better with another.
2. If i feel for any reason it is not serving me.

I see search engine rankings like owning stock and follow the #1 investing in the stock market rule which is: Do not get emotionally attached to them.

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I understand what you're saying but surely you understand that in a round-about way without getting too technical you're listing within the rankings is just as good a reset for the new title you pick? Anyway that's how i understand it so to pick a good one first, which is ultimatley aimed at your target audience and is core about your business/interests and thus should be for a long time will create a much better stature for your rankings
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I understand what you're saying but surely you understand that in a round-about way without getting too technical you're listing within the rankings is just as good a reset for the new title you pick? Anyway that's how i understand it so to pick a good one first, which is ultimatley aimed at your target audience and is core about your business/interests and thus should be for a long time will create a much better stature for your rankings
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