Dmoz inclusion - Page 4

alter-ego · 04-30-2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Birdie

DMOZ is just a good link; nothing more and nothing less; it no different to any other good link.

The only people who over hype it are those with DMOZOCD (DMOZ Obsessive Compulsive Disorder). I don't know why so many obsessive over "just a link"

I actually think the reason is due to the vast array of differing information about dmoz published all over the net. While this thread may or may not be a yay or nay dmoz thread, there are many others online that vary from dmoz is a must for any new webmaster to those who think it's a tremendous waste of time.

When I first started out on my own sites close to 5 years ago, it seemed virtually every webmaster resource I visited were dmoz lovers and felt its imperative to get listed. H3ll I've seen a few wembmaster sites with their own dedicated dmoz forums for dmoz only related discussions.

Then of course I've seen the polar opposite where some view dmoz as a complete waste of time and energy and every bit as corrupt as Alexa Rankings (for instance). Personally I stand in the middle somewhere because I am listed but see little to no traffic (as I've already indicated) but likely some link juice. Since I'm not much of a PR junkie the link juice isn't as important to me as targeted traffic but I admit it is nice seeing some green on that google toolbar.

Whether or not dmoz inclusion is important will vary as much as the webmasters discussing it. At the end of the day it may help your site but will it help as much as a handful of truly unique, informative and helpful targeted content?

If it were me I'd say submit your application but make sure you put some work into both your site and dmoz application so clear value can be seen by the Editors. If this doesn't get you listed then you did your best, move on and build your site, maybe dmoz won't notice but there are plenty of others who will.

smith · 04-30-2009, 06:49 AM

My site get listed, for a year then somebody attack my site they rejected already.

ranter · 04-30-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by alter-ego

If it were me I'd say submit your application but make sure you put some work into both your site and dmoz application so clear value can be seen by the Editors. If this doesn't get you listed then you did your best, move on and build your site, maybe dmoz won't notice but there are plenty of others who will.

That is make sense
Good for you

ranter · 04-30-2009, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Birdie

I don't know why so many obsessive over "just a link"

Nostalgia maybe....
Old good times when you would get listed in a couple of months....
My competitors garbage sites has been listed and my is not...

Should I go on?

robertgallagher · 05-05-2009, 05:49 AM

hay
Dmoz didn't approved my site as well yet. i already submitted my site since 8 months ago and still wetting for approval. my site is already 2 years old, PR 3 alexa with below 50k and 350+ visitor per day but they still not approved my site yet.

w3bmaster · 05-05-2009, 06:59 AM

I don't get why people even other

Dmoz is like PR people think will make a big diffrence getting listed/higher but it's not true ...i quited on trying using Dmoz ages ago ...

ganeshseg · 05-06-2009, 12:18 AM

more than one is very long time

djeby · 05-06-2009, 02:05 AM

Well, i was on the DMOZ forums, they said it can take months, maybe years to get approved, and they will not announce you if your site is still pending or you got rejected, but if you submit more than once, you are subject for rejection.

That seems a little weird to me. You stay with a thought if your site was or not rejected. That for me seems unprofessional. Just my opinion.

And yes, i submitted and didn`t get approved, but that is not my point in this post

Birdie · 05-06-2009, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by djeby

And yes, i submitted and didn`t get approved, but that is not my point in this post

How do you know it was not approved?

DMOZ is not a listing service; its not in the business of providing a service to webmasters; I can never understand the obsession and 'chips on the shoulder' so many have about something that DMOZ does not provide.

Why do you need to know. After you have submitted once, then your site is:
1) Waiting to be reviewed --> life goes on and there is nothing more you can do
2) Moved to be reviewed in another category --> life goes on and there is nothing more you can do
3) Listed --> life goes on and there is nothing more you can do
4) Rejected --> life goes on and there is nothing more you can do

Submit once; forget about it; move on

djeby · 05-06-2009, 02:27 AM

Birdie, i was talking about the fact that i was not approved until now. Don`t know if my submission is still pending or not, but i am still waiting. Hope dies the last

Yes, i know their saying, submit and forget.

Just, wanted to say my point of view on this one, about the fact that they don`t announce you what is going on with your listing.

ranter · 05-06-2009, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Birdie

DMOZ is not a listing service; its not in the business of providing a service to webmasters; I can never understand the obsession and 'chips on the shoulder' so many have about something that DMOZ does not provide.

Ok, I'll give you that, DMOZ don't have to provide info but...
any 2 bits directory script have option which will prevent another submission attempt if URL is sitting in pending bin until it's reviewed and added or rejected.
Why can't DMOZ to use the same option?

I know you will say: why should they? so I'll tell you now: because that is how Internet community should work if members aren't stupid idiots who careless about the rest of us.

Now, if site is accepted, then owner will see it and as result will stop posting in every forum "when my site will be listed in that freaking DMOZ?" and "I'm waiting for 2 years, should I re-submit?" and if URL is rejected, then let them submit again without pushing their sites to the back of the list.

How hard it can be if member of Internet Community isn't some ignorant SOB?

Birdie · 05-06-2009, 07:39 PM

Look how people react in forums when they told there site is not going to get listed. I know of a number of death threats made against editors (one came from a christian site!). Editors did not sign up for that. DMOZ chooses not to send email notifications. There is a 'thank you for your submission' screen after submitting.

If a link is rejected, it is only on rare occasions that will be eventually listable. The last think DMOZ needs is all those sites rejected to immediatly resubmit when they get a rejection email.

alter-ego · 05-06-2009, 08:32 PM

I think it's really easy to sit at the other end of the screen and criticize a fully human edited directory when one feels their hard work is not being recognized in the eyes of dmoz. How many of you actually engage in any level of reciprocity with external sites without checking them out fully?

...this process does not take mere seconds.

Trust me when I say being listed in dmoz is great but it does not make your site, you make your site. If you can't get listed then don't waste your time worrying about it, you're site will benefit exponentially if you transfer your wasted energies on dmoz frustration to actually building a unique, informative and memorable web experience.

djeby · 05-07-2009, 04:06 AM

well, i don`t say that people (editors) don`t deserve credit for their hard work, because after all this is a FREE directory, where people work as volunteers, they don`t get paid.

I don`t say that. The only thing that bothers me, is that they can make an email (no-reply) and notify members that they have been rejected / accepted.
And after that, they can enforce a rule (add a feature to the directory, that the script will only let you add your link again in .. let's say 3 months maybe).

That would be easier, more practical for users. We would know what is the status of our submission. Because, to be honest, many webmasters submit each month, maybe more. When they remember about their submission, they submit again, and again...

So that can`t be easy for editors, this way their work will get a little easier, and users will back`off for a while.

Anyway, that's my opinion. Now i`m doing the Submit & Forget method.

robertgallagher · 05-12-2009, 01:35 AM

hi nextt,
I am also facing the same kinds of problem infect i am also submitting my sites since 10 months ago but they yet not approved my site in their directory. i thinks Dmoz moderator are very lazy and staff are not doing well. so we have to contact the Dmoz moderator they should help us.

Birdie · 05-12-2009, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by robertgallagher

hi nextt,
I am also facing the same kinds of problem infect i am also submitting my sites since 10 months ago but they yet not approved my site in their directory. i thinks Dmoz moderator are very lazy and staff are not doing well. so we have to contact the Dmoz moderator they should help us.

Where did you ever get the impression from that DMOZ is there to meet your service expectations and be a listing service for webmasters?

How can a volunteer be lazy? If I volunteer at a soup kitchen one day a month, am I being lazy by not volunteering 2 days a month? If a volunteer DMOZ editor lists one site (or 100 sites) a month, how can they be lazy if they don't list two (or 200) a month? They have added value to the project and did not hinder anyone one else volunteering to help.

BTW, those so called lazy editors, add around 2000 new sites a week to DMOZ (many of which were never submitted in the first place!), making it the fastest growing directory on the web!....pretty awesome work by being "lazy"! How are they "not doing well" if they can achieve that????

Why would you want to contact the "DMOZ moderator" for help? What obligation or service does a DMOZ "moderator" or editor owe you?

Also, when you say "submitting my sites since 10 months ", does that mean you submitted more than once? If you did, how do you think any directory (not just DMOZ) shoudl treat those sites that are submitted and can't follow the guidelines that they agreed to when they submitted?

Lyon · 05-24-2009, 11:11 PM

I think I haven't got accepted by DMOZ yet.. I submitted my site more than over a year ago

Anca · 05-25-2009, 08:09 AM

Dmoz is dead, so, forget about it!

alter-ego · 05-25-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Anca

Dmoz is dead, so, forget about it!

Just out of curiosity, where did you pick up this little tidbit of info.? I'd sure love to see it as I'm sure many others would as well.

Birdie · 05-25-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Anca

Dmoz is dead, so, forget about it!

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Originally Posted by alter-ego

Just out of curiosity, where did you pick up this little tidbit of info.? I'd sure love to see it as I'm sure many others would as well.

I would love to know to. Can you give us a list of directories that list more sites in a week than DMOZ? Are all other directories on the web dead as well?