Dmoz inclusion

[ranter]

Come on anonymously, this is not about reporting to DMOZ bad link, this is about you explaining to us all how that link happened to be listed in DMOZ in a first place.

You said and I quote it to for you again

Originally Posted by anonymously

I am happy to try and help people to understand what DMOZ is and perhaps more importantly what it is not and how it operates.

Now, if you in here really to help us to understand how DMOZ function, then you have to be transparent and by using eventual examples give us glance at what is influencing editor’s brains when he make decision to add or not to add piece of crap to DMOZ Index.

Now is your chance to prove to us that you are in here to help so, start with example from above

[anonymously]

Thanks once again for the invitation, forgive me for not accepting it. I refer the honourable gentleman to my previous answer.

[larryatv7]

Being listed in DMOZ absolutely helps your rank in serps. But don't have high expectation since most sites will not get listed. So just submit and forget it. If one day you receive an aproval email from them, then it is a big bonus.

[ranter]

Originally Posted by anonymously

Thanks once again for the invitation, forgive me for not accepting it. I refer the honourable gentleman to my previous answer.

You mean the one that silently pronounced:
Yes, we are spam infested cesspool but it is our cesspool and I will defend it no matter what anybody says.

You see, by avoiding discussing this kind of links in DMOZ in open, you are offering undeniable proof that your editorial integrity stinks and you should learn how to manage submissions from some real editors.
http://www.amray.com/forum/viewtopic...360fea3fe354ae

[Cricket]

@ Ranter - Don't make me send you to the corner. Behave yourself dang it.

[alter-ego]

Originally Posted by ranter

You mean the one that silently pronounced:
Yes, we are spam infested cesspool but it is our cesspool and I will defend it no matter what anybody says.

You see, by avoiding discussing this kind of links in DMOZ in open, you are offering undeniable proof that your editorial integrity stinks and you should learn how to manage submissions from some real editors.
http://www.amray.com/forum/viewtopic...360fea3fe354ae

It's funny but you clearly have no idea how to put your anger or bitterness aside for even a millisecond when you feel you're on the path of righteousness, or so it would seem.

If you could discuss something in less of an accusatory manner maybe you would gain some insight into methodology of what gets a site listed but in all your responses it's quite clear that no level of insight would ever satisfy you. Maybe this works for you in the real world or maybe dmoz is the only thing that winds your crank this tightly but if I could make a suggestion, take a pill and ask a question and please don't make the pill an upper.

Like you I'd like answers as to why things happen and why things don't in dmoz (and the world of webmastering in general) but "ranting" about it in a topic such as this will bring neither of us any closer to our goal; the average person will likely shy away from the topic as well for fear of ranter repercussions.

I'm sorry, I don't normally call people out in posts but your last few posts have truly sucked, done nothing to move the topic forward and it's possible we've all lost in the process.

[ranter]

@alter-ego

Angry? What would I be angry? I am not the one who has been bitten in oblivious… laying on my back… in pool of dirt… trying to defend corrupted institution. I am the one who is enjoying myself, watching a spectacle of self-destruction, curtsey of anonymously and… you my friend have no idea what you’re talking about if you think that I’m angry.

Why don’t we talk about you for a moment?
It happened to be long time since I heard such aloud-kissing sounds. Too bad you have no idea what you are kissing but more importantly why. Just in case I’m wrong and you do know, then take my advice: don’t try it so hard, because anonymously will never make you an Editor anyway.

Now, when you finally grasp what Mr. Edi Tor and me are talking about and at least some idea what DMOZ is really stands for, then come back and talk to me but please do me a favor and remove the stuff you are sucking on, candy, chewing gum or whatever, so I can understand what is you problem and to help you the same way anonymously is trying to help us all with your problem as much as I can so we can put it where it’s rightfully belongs.

[alter-ego]

lmao, I think you took wayyyy to big a puff on your flag there ranter

The only thing funnier than your reply is the negative rep you gave me for calling a spade a spade.

Oh well, nice try.

Edit: I thought I'd add that just because you and I cannot see eye to eye does not mean we cannot be friends. Wanted to clear that up because you sounded a bit confused.

[John]

Originally Posted by ranter

You see, by avoiding discussing this kind of links in DMOZ in open, you are offering undeniable proof that your editorial integrity stinks and you should learn how to manage submissions from some real editors.
http://www.amray.com/forum/viewtopic...360fea3fe354ae

Well ranter you give an abysmal example of "editorial integrity" . The link you provide is discussing a site with limited unique content that would appear to exist primarily to provide search engine fodder to attract surfers so they will click on the Amazon affiliate links.

Forget how useful the site is to the surfer, amray proudly announces that if the submitter tweaks the title a little bit they and will be quite happy to list it. You describe it right we will list it. Is this the lesson that ODP editors should learn from amray, list any old shiite providing it is desribed right?

There was a member here a while ago from amway who got banned called fastreplies who use to wonk on the same nonsense as you ranter. Are you related?

[ranter]

Originally Posted by John

Forget how useful the site is to the surfer, amray proudly announces that if the submitter tweaks the title a little bit they and will be quite happy to list it. You describe it right we will list it. Is this the lesson that ODP editors should learn from amray, list any old shiite providing it is desribed right?

Where does it say that it will be listed?
All I can see is friendly advice editor has been passing to would be spammer where he/she is patiently explaining the purpose of description. The difference is in an attitude and the ways in which DMOZ and AMRAY editors are treating submitter.

In first case you are going to be declared spammer simply because general believe of DMOZ editors insinuates that everybody who submits to DMOZ, submits nothing but spam and in second case, submitter has been treated as a PERSON whereas editor is taking his/her time trying to help submitter to understand the purpose of submission and the role of directories.

If you have problem with that, then read again what submitter has to say about AMRAY editor’s effort.

Originally Posted by John

There was a member here a while ago from amway who got banned called fastreplies who use to wonk on the same nonsense as you ranter. Are you related?

Why is that everybody who opens their mouth in DMOZ direction all the sadden becomes nonsense? I can give you another example of the same attitude toward DMOZ as I have. Even thou I must to admit that I am in total disagreement with John Scott on many issues but when it comes to DMOZ, all I can say: we are soul brothers.

Your post “JOHN” is nothing more than attempt to go after messenger because you have nothing to say about the message and I fill sorry for you and wish you to get good productive life outside of DMOZ soon enough and before DMOZ turns you in Intel powered robot.

[anonymously]

Ranter are you connected to AMRAY?

[John]

Originally Posted by ranter

Where does it say that it will be listed?
All I can see is friendly advice editor has been passing to would be spammer where he/she is patiently explaining the purpose of description. The difference is in an attitude and the ways in which DMOZ and AMRAY editors are treating submitter.

OMG! This is how you want ODP editors to behave. The submitter asks "Why my link rejected?" The "editorial staff member" offers advice on descriptions, the submitter says thanks very much and goes away to amend his description thinking that his site will now be listed. Now you are telling us that the "friendly advice" may have nothing to do with the reasons why the site is not listed. Please explain how you conclude that misleading submitters shows integrity.

Originally Posted by ranter

Your post “JOHN” is nothing more than attempt to go after messenger because you have nothing to say about the message and I fill sorry for you and wish you to get good productive life outside of DMOZ soon enough and before DMOZ turns you in Intel powered robot.

Not at all my dear ranting friend. You give an example of how in your considered opinion you would like to see ODP editors behave. I point out to you the absurdity of your example. Just a free and frank exchange of ideas, no need to get your knickers in a tangle.

Originally Posted by anonymously

Ranter are you connected to AMRAY?

I thought it would be apparent by now that he is their chief cheerleader, cook and bottlewasher.

[ranter]

Originally Posted by anonymously

Ranter are you connected to AMRAY?

Why are you asking me again about my relations?
I told you that already in my PM but if you want me to bring the content of our lengthy discussion in public, then I have no problems with that and I will be more than happy to do so and even will enhance my answer with this post
http://www.webmaster-talk.com/888380-post4.html

Originally Posted by John

OMG! This is how you want ODP editors to behave. The submitter asks "Why my link rejected?" The "editorial staff member" offers advice on descriptions, the submitter says thanks very much and goes away to amend his description thinking that his site will now be listed. Now you are telling us that the "friendly advice" may have nothing to do with the reasons why the site is not listed. Please explain how you conclude that misleading submitters shows integrity.

I don’t expect some genius that is hiding from the real world in basement of his parent’s home and believes that DMOZ is center of Universe to understand basic human behavior. If you ever tried a bit harder, you would grasp concept of people are helping people but most importantly why. So, what if that site will be rejected by AMRAY if the submitter got more as result of his post, e.g. helpful advice that he may use in a future.
What is wrong with that?

Originally Posted by John

Not at all my dear ranting friend. You give an example of how in your considered opinion you would like to see ODP editors behave. I point out to you the absurdity of your example. Just a free and frank exchange of ideas, no need to get your knickers in a tangle.

Exchange of ideas??? You must be kidding me.
Ideas and DMOZ editors is an oxymoron. The problem with DMOZ editors ideas is; they are limited to little Red Book of DMOZ Rules whereas outside of them editors become totally dysfunctional imbeciles who like those traveling Hare Krishna’s are going from forum to forum and spreading DMOZ slavery love gospel.

BTW, do you know what Idea means or your DMOZ Slave Master told you not to use your brains on your own?

[Cricket]

Final Warning: Further disrespect will not be tolerated in this (or any other) thread.

[marrya]

but why the accepted my bolog which i made within a weak and i submited and they accept it ? and not my website two year and 15 days old

[John]

Originally Posted by ranter/fastreplies

I don’t expect some genius that is hiding from the real world in basement of his parent’s home and believes that DMOZ is center of Universe to understand basic human behavior.

Thanks for your concern about my personal circumstances. I am actually sitting in the attic . Basements are so cold and depressing, don't you agree?

Originally Posted by ranter/fastreplies

So, what if that site will be rejected by AMRAY if the submitter got more as result of his post, e.g. helpful advice that he may use in a future. What is wrong with that?

I still don't get what you are saying ranter/fastreplies. Its Ok to deceive submitters providing you are doing under t he guise of being helpful?

The poor fellow asked for some advice why his site was not listed. According to you your mates at amray gave him some cock and bull story which did not relate to why he wasn't listed. This in the world according to ranter/fastreplies is just fine and dandy. I say no! It is not right to lie to submitters under any circumstance. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Shame on you my little ranting friend.

[Cricket]

Did you not read my post?

I have really had enough of this childish bickering. If y'all can't talk to each other with respect, please stop responding to each other's posts. The rest of us are sick of it.

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