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Old 12-04-2008, 01:15 AM   #41 (permalink)
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What a load of rubbish!!
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But I think these sites are not new ones!
NO, has I said more than half the sites that get listed in DMOZ are not submitted. That includes >1000 sites a weeks.
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Total BS. If anything, the opposite is the case.

WHy do you make this kind of stuff up for?
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Old 12-04-2008, 01:17 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Old 12-05-2008, 10:42 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Old 12-06-2008, 02:38 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Birdie, I really can't understand you. You are trying to "defend" ODP, that's Ok.
But why are you misinforming?

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Submit ONCE to the ONE best category
Even you are quoting the Holy Guidelines, its not true.
To prevent your further questions will mention multi-language sites.

Another "BS" - saw that you like this expression:

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If your site has been rejected and you resubmit, then you just get labeled as a spammer and create more work for editors to delete again.
How many sites labeled as a spammer have you seen?

With my shy experience I have seen less than 5. (without checking Real Estate cats). Two, or three (re)submissions are definitely not a reason to put a label "spammer". Especially after the implementation of the best Captcha in the world.

I like that you are trying to give more information about ODP, but please - be more strict when explaining.
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Old 12-07-2008, 11:03 PM   #45 (permalink)
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1. Every time you resubmit, you just overwrite the previous submission with the new date - you just move your site down the list, if the editor chooses to use the pool of sites and organises them by date of submission - there is NEVER a need to resubmit.
Birdie,

I saw in another forum your dispute with a former DMOZ editor. She said you're wrong, very wrong. Are you an DMOZ editor? If yes, now I understand why things are going so slow. You appreciate more the submission manner than the site itself. You just create rules, new rules to help you reject all sites. The worst thing is you cannot accept that from time to time you might be wrong. Please, do not misinform.

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Old 12-08-2008, 12:00 AM   #46 (permalink)
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I saw in another forum your dispute with a former DMOZ editor.
Please show me where ANY DMOZ editor has said what I said was wrong about this?. Resubmission of a site to the same category overwrites the previous one with the new date. The software at DMOZ is set up that way to deal with all the repeat submissions. Where are you getting your information from
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She said you're wrong, very wrong.
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What does me being an editor or not have anything to do with it?
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I have no idea what you are saying here
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You just create rules, new rules to help you reject all sites.
I make up no rules. The guidelines as to what sites to include and not are publically available for all to see: http://www.dmoz.org/guidelines/

BTW, DMOZ adds greater than 2000 new sites a week, making it the fastest growing directory on the www - how is that making up rules to help reject all sites. Why did you make that up for?
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Pleasee show me where I was wrong. I think you will find NO DMOZ editor or anyone who understands how DMOZ works (obviously you don't) disagreeing with repeat submissions to the same category overwriting the previous one with the new date
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Old 12-08-2008, 12:06 AM   #47 (permalink)
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wait and watch for listing in DMOZ.
If you have qualiry website and it's look and navigation is user friendly, you will get listed in DMOZ, but it takes too much time. one of my site been submited 5 years ago in DMOZ, but still no approval or rejected message. so you need to wait for DMOZ.
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I submitted my site before a year but still i ma waiting for getting listed
So , do you think there is no a good strategy to have a website listed by DMOZ excepting for being lucky?
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i submitted quality sites almost two Months ago and nothing. It's a big let down.
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i submitted quality sites almost two Months ago and nothing. It's a big let down.
Neither of the sites in your signature are listable. They would have been rejected by the editor if they have been reviewed.
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I have no idea what you are saying here
He is talking about good sites being rejected because submitter made some errors in his submission. Yes, you have to read and follow submission guidelines but...
given that editors routinely messing up site Titles and Descriptions and move sites to more appropriate categories, good site should not be dismissed just because submitter is patented moron who has problems with following the rules and should be given some consideration regardless who has submit it to DMOZ

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He is talking about good sites being rejected because submitter made some errors in his submission. Yes, you have to read and follow submission guidelines but...
given that editors routinely messing up site Titles and Descriptions and move sites to more appropriate categories, good site should not be dismissed just because submitter is patented moron who has problems with following the rules
I have never heard of this happening. Perhaps he can produce some evidence to back up the claim. ...or is it just another one of the silly claims that he made up?

Editors DO NOT reject good sites becasue the submitter can't follow guidelines; can't submit to correct categories; etc etc. Editors want to list sites.

HOWEVER, how do you think any directory (not just DMOZ) should treat those who can not follow the guidelines that they acknowledge that they agree to when they submit a site?
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HOWEVER, how do you think any directory (not just DMOZ) should treat those who can not follow the guidelines that they acknowledge that they agree to when they submit a site?
I never said that people who submit their sites to directories are geniuses, as a matter of fact 95% of them should put to death, specifically those who own directories themselves.

Biyatches never read guidelines and then complaining and bitching because their submission masterpieces thrown in garbage dump. Here is one good example of what I am talking about.
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1126004

Site was submitted by cesspool infested by spam Web-Directories.ws owner and rejected by AMRAY Editors.

Do I need to say more?
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Definitely - yes. A lot of editors, including me, prefer to find sites themselves.
The submission "pool" is just one way for finding useful resources.
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Absolutly. More than half the sites that get added are not submitted.
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Absolutly. More than half the sites that get added are not submitted.
Birdie has exact stats of all of the listed sites and the ways editors are working, so the correct answer is "more than half"
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There was some approx stats published by a senior editor (or staff) a year or so ago that I can not find the source for just yet.

They reported that about half sites listed were not submitted; they also said that of the sites that were subbmitted and were listable, about half were listed within 3 months of submission ---- I can't recall what other stats they mentioned.

I see a senior editor in FZ a week or so ago say that only 10% of the sites that they list were submitted in the first place.
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