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Old 07-01-2004, 02:28 PM
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Choosing Titles in Directories

It seems it would be useful to have anchor text in the hyperlinked title in a directory. Many directories, including DMOZ, want you to "opt for the official name of the site." What do people think, is it ok to just go ahead and use a key keyword in the title even if it's not part of your company name?
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Old 07-01-2004, 02:34 PM
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Here's a hint. A lot of people submit to BlueFind with the keyword in the title.

If I submitted www.v7inc.com I might like "Web Hosting" as the title. But that would never get past the editors. The name of the company is "V7 Inc", so that's the title.

http://www.bluefind.com/dir/8310.php

But - here's the secret - you can submit web pages of the site. And since they are web pages, the site name doesn't matter. For example, I could submit this page -
http://www.v7n.com/copyright-law.php - using the title "Copyright Law".

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In major directories, i would prefer to follow their (strict) guidelines and in minor ones i would put a keyword-rich anchor text in title.

No major prob even if they ban you.

But play safe with key directories because when they ban you it would be real PITA.
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But - here's the secret - you can submit web pages of the site. And since they are web pages, the site name doesn't matter. For example, I could submit this page -
http://www.v7n.com/copyright-law.php - using the title "Copyright Law".

but can we submit multiple pages of website to major directories?

directories like dmoz says "submit only main page of your site".

I'm confused.
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Hint, make your site name the keywords:
Example: 'Christian Teen Forum'
Then you cannot be accused of submitting a keyword rich title, because it is actually the name of your site!
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But - here's the secret - you can submit web pages of the site. And since they are web pages, the site name doesn't matter. For example, I could submit this page -
http://www.v7n.com/copyright-law.php - using the title "Copyright Law".

but can we submit multiple pages of website to major directories?

directories like dmoz says "submit only main page of your site".

I'm confused.
Yes, you can submit important pages if they are rich in unique content.
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But you can submit all you like, dosent mean it will get accepted, well unless it is bluefind or wow...
DMOZ should get a DOS attack... they are the lowest of the low now in my opinon!
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But - here's the secret - you can submit web pages of the site. And since they are web pages, the site name doesn't matter. For example, I could submit this page -
http://www.v7n.com/copyright-law.php - using the title "Copyright Law".

but can we submit multiple pages of website to major directories?

directories like dmoz says "submit only main page of your site".

I'm confused.
Yes, you can submit important pages if they are rich in unique content.
what about the ODP warning regarding submission..?

I also found www.internet-marketing-research.net is not listed with dmoz.org but than also you receive great google rankings for potential keywords.

What's the key john?
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High search engine rankings are the result of a lot of links from a lot of unique domains with the keywords in the anchor.
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But - here's the secret - you can submit web pages of the site. And since they are web pages, the site name doesn't matter. For example, I could submit this page -
http://www.v7n.com/copyright-law.php - using the title "Copyright Law".

Thanks again John.

Is it worth requesting a change in DMOZ similar to what you suggest or just let that one sit (pointing to home page) and concentrate on other directory submissions.

PS. Plan to investigate Bluefind in about a month when we should have 3 sites ready to go. Any quantity breaks?
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if you are in dmoz they only want to make changes for serious stuff.

obvious change of site name on the site
change of url
change of business model which causes a different description...stuff like that
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Improtance of title

I think Title and Discriptions Paly Improtant role in optaimization so this is serious matter use quality title and description while submitting your site in a Improtantn Directories
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But - here's the secret - you can submit web pages of the site. And since they are web pages, the site name doesn't matter. For example, I could submit this page -
http://www.v7n.com/copyright-law.php - using the title "Copyright Law".

That may be true in some of the categories, it won't work in most.
Your site may get accepted faster if the title is the Company's name and the description is clean (not stuffed with key words) or a good description of the site. Editors seem to do the easy ones...and I don't blame them. When there's a bunch of sites that need to be reviewed and all they see are keyword titles, deeplinks, keyword stuffed descriptions, they have to spend a lot of time finding out who it is and what they do and where they go.
The more work you do when submitting a site and finding the correct category to submit to...the faster it will get added.

as far as John's example...If I were editing that site and it was listable the title would be: v7 Network and the description would include something about the Copyright law if there was such a category...and there isn't for that type of page.

I hope that helps.
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But - here's the secret - you can submit web pages of the site. And since they are web pages, the site name doesn't matter. For example, I could submit this page -
http://www.v7n.com/copyright-law.php - using the title "Copyright Law".
That may be true in some of the categories, it won't work in most.
but since BlueFind is John's directory it is a pretty safe bet that his guidance is correct in this case
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Zeal usually does "Site Name : Page Name", and DMOZ appears to do something similar.
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but since BlueFind is John's directory it is a pretty safe bet that his guidance is correct in this case
awall19..you can take the advice here and do what ever you please. :wink:
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I just read some advise about using company name and keyword. Exp.
"v7n.com for web hosting"

What do you guys think?
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