Automatic Directory Submission is a Waste of Time

[jennypretty]

Hello,

Do you think Automatic Directory Submission is a Waste of Time?

I paid for a few times on directory submission guys. They said they 'd use manual submission method but I think they used automatic software to submit to about 500 directories. Their work was done fast.

After about 3 weeks of submission, my site got indexed on google for some keywords. However, these keywords were not indexed after few weeks later and even got worse than before submission.

My question is "does it hurt my site ranking if we submitted too many directories in a short time?"

Is automatic directory submission waste of time?

Thanks very much for reading.

[Journey]

I haven't tried automatic directory submission. I still prefer doing it manually...

[jabo]

I don't think that there is any harm in doing directory submission manually or automatically, except for that either could be a waste of time... submitting to a list of directory isn't just about submission, you will still have to determine if that certain directory is related to your site and if it would be helpful. So far I don't think that any automatic submissions could do this and most of the manual directory submission services only submits to a certain list of directory, they may be related directories but not quality ones, why don't you just submit 'em sites to directories yourself? it only takes a few minutes a day for a few directory sites to be searched, analyzed and submit to

[Arabule]

Originally Posted by jennypretty

Hello,

Do you think Automatic Directory Submission is a Waste of Time?

I paid for a few times on directory submission guys. They said they 'd use manual submission method but I think they used automatic software to submit to about 500 directories. Their work was done fast.

After about 3 weeks of submission, my site got indexed on google for some keywords. However, these keywords were not indexed after few weeks later and even got worse than before submission.

My question is "does it hurt my site ranking if we submitted too many directories in a short time?"

Is automatic directory submission waste of time?

Thanks very much for reading.

Auto submission programs usually submit to the wrong categories and contain non quality web directories which will harm your web site is the long term.

Submitting manually or automatically in a short time will harm your web site as well, search engines mainly google will notice that and may consider it as a spam.

You have to submit manually or use semi auto programs which help you auto fill the fields when submitting to directorie.

Don't submit too fast use and different anchor titles and descriptions when submitting, keep your submission constant, but not too fast neither too slow.

[Jenie0109]

there are human edited directories that forbids auto submission.

[dzinestand]

I do not tried the Automated Submission. I also Prefer the Manually Submission.

[lloyd.velarde@gmail.]

i prefer manual submission to human edited categories, unlike automated submission it does not accurately submit it to the right categories, which is not that useful!

[dataflurry]

I prefer to see the page my link will land on prior to obtaining a link there for the most part...

[ranter]

Originally Posted by dataflurry

I prefer to see the page my link will land on prior to obtaining a link there for the most part...

Can you translate for us what you just said?

[zooted]

As a page owner you want your site to be on a page with other sites like yours, so directory submissions are useful. With automatic submissions they often put your site in the wrong category on a new directory with no PR.

These directories should give you a backlink, and backlinks are important.

As a directory owner I can say it is a waste of my time. All these people from India submit to the wrong categories constantly So I end up either editing their work all day, or i will not approve the link that they submitted.

Basically, submit to high PR directories that manually approve their links. Try to manually submit when possible. Do not load your description up with keywords either. PM me for a free link to my directory if you want

[jennypretty]

thanks guys for your suggestion.

[Mousee]

Few words to add: as I learned most of the directories that accept free submitting give 30, 60 and even 180 days before they approve the site. For sure I'm speaking about high PR directories. So, it means that in 3 weeks it's impossible to see any sufficient results at all...

[fromthe5]

Auto submission programs usually submit to the wrong categories and contain non quality web directories which will harm your web site is the long term.

How will this harm your web site?

[GoGlobal]

I prefer manually submission .....

[Arabule]

Originally Posted by fromthe5

How will this harm your web site?

Some directories are like FFA links or so called spam free directories, they accept all kind of links, they even don't make sure that the link is submitted to the right category and they only click the approve button, these sites are more likely to be considered as FFA links and usually they have no page rank and no position in search engines, they usually get semi or complete ban in the long term if they keep going with this criteria.

Of course getting a huge amount of back links from such directories will do no good for your website.

Originally Posted by zooted

As a directory owner I can say it is a waste of my time. All these people from India submit to the wrong categories constantly So I end up either editing their work all day, or i will not approve the link that they submitted.

I'm interested in seeing your web directory and in link exchange, can you send me a link via pm please.

[vectro]

I favor niche directories and relevant backlinks. Although there is no such thing as a "harmful link" according to Google's blog, there are such things as worthless links with no impact. Getting backlinks on a pages with relevant keywords/keyphrases has helped me the most.

[juust]

a bit off topic : half a year ago I checked the inner ranking of about 150 directories and except for dmoz and yahoo the only ranking pages tend to be the index and the main category pages, linked to from the index (200 pages out of the 7000 pages I tested had a pagerank).

For all links on ranking pages you pay, and the rest don't carry weight in Google.

I still submit when I come across a directory I like, some directories do start to rank but that depends on the efforts of the directory owner. Maybe with the addition of on-topic articles the ranking improves.

[fromthe5]

Some directories are like FFA links or so called spam free directories, they accept all kind of links, they even don't make sure that the link is submitted to the right category and they only click the approve button, these sites are more likely to be considered as FFA links and usually they have no page rank and no position in search engines, they usually get semi or complete ban in the long term if they keep going with this criteria.

Of course getting a huge amount of back links from such directories will do no good for your website.

FFA or "Free For All Websites" are merely bulletin boards where one may get a free listing for their web site. The term does not include the directory format. I submit to what's called "general directories", which may be what you're talking about. The good submitting companies will weed out the crap and maintain a good list, generally around 2000/3000 directories out of a possible 8 or 9 thousand or more. The number of submittals that I get kicked back for wrong category is around 3 per thousand, or .003%. Of course if you use a crap company you will get crap submissions. (been there - done that) Even though it is rumored that G. has devalued general directories, they still work well. As I have posted before: You won't be penalized for any links that are pointed to your site. If that was possible all you would have to do is submit a bunch of "bad neighborhood" links to a competitor's site and you would get your competitor penalized. Generally all that will happen is the links won't count.

[ranter]

Originally Posted by fromthe5

... around 2000/3000 directories out of a possible 8 or 9 thousand or more.

How about 20 or 30 or 50 at the very best?

[fromthe5]

How about 20 or 30 or 50 at the very best?

The very best general directories:

1. Homepage indexed in the major search engines
2. Quick placement of your link
3. Fewer links/listings per page
4. Human edited (ostensibly)

Ok. What about them?