How do directories justify pricing with low PR?

funguru · Share | #1 (**permalink**) 11-01-2009, 10:13 PM

How do directories like below justify such high pricing while having low PR homepage and N/A PR on most inner page.?

Aviva Directory: Home Page PR 3: $149 / permanent link
Romow: Home Page PR 3: $60 Regular permanent link

danix · #2 (**permalink**) 11-01-2009, 11:45 PM

I should pay for a link only for yahoo directory

robjones · #3 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 01:11 AM

PR is over rated IMO (even Google agrees)... but either way PR and SERPs are not perfectly correlated. There are reasons besides PR that people submit to directories or those guys probably wouldnt be doing business. Not extremely familiar with their product, but Aviva certainly has a good rep.

funguru · #4 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 01:16 AM

Sounds like Aviva is alive just coz ppl THINK that they might be getting some PR / link juice from the directory and might rank higher.

robjones · #5 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 01:25 AM

That assumes PR is what is important to them.

funguru · #6 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 01:28 AM

Isn't that one of the reasons why sevenseek has stopped accepting links.. they can't give value for the money. People do submit for PR, i would rather get a link from PR5 page paying $149 then get a link from a PR N/A page which might not even be cached by G

robjones · #7 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 01:35 AM

Just saying you may have a higher emphasis on PR than some others. Saying "people do submit for PR" is true, because some do. That is not the same as saying "people ONLY submit for PR", or "ALL people submit for PR".

I dont work for them so I dont feel a huge need to defend them. They're still in business, so it appears people see value there that you do not believe to be there. I cant argue results one way or the other as I have sites listed in neither. Do you by chance have actual experience with either or them?

funguru · #8 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 01:38 AM

I have experiense with BOTW which has a PR6 but since the internal pages have hardly any PR, i did not see any value in renewing my link. But yes, i agree with you that not all people submit for PR and it is still quite hazy if the links from directories count for anything significant.

robjones · #9 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 01:48 AM

My own observations have been positive with some of the big directories with or without heavy internal PR... but if PR were the object I'd agree with your route. Guess it all depends on what you hope to achieve thru a directory listing.

Facebokguru · #10 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 02:10 AM

to link a high rank page not enough, but also your anchor text and page topic( niche) also important to get high page rank by linking

stoner3221 · #11 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 11:47 AM

Legitimate directory operators could care less about page rank. Many directories were around long before Googles page ranking system and some before Google and somehow survived quite nicely.

funguru · #12 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 07:20 PM

Skaffe is giving me a 403 error since yesterday.

stoner3221 · #13 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by funguru

Skaffe is giving me a 403 error since yesterday.

Some areas of some countries do not have access to Skaffe Services. PM me since this is off topic if you have questions.

website-seo · #14 (**permalink**) 11-03-2009, 01:44 PM

PR isn't important. Besides, these links are permanent. That dosent mean they are worth it, DMOZ and Yahoo Directories are the only ones that make a difference. Even though Yahoo Directory is more expensive than the directories you mentioned, it is worth it. DMOZ and Yahoo Directory are the only ones worth paying at all, at DMOZ is FREE!

anonymously · #15 (**permalink**) 11-03-2009, 03:31 PM

DMOZ is free and we are glad it is, but that is not a listing guarantee, and any listing might take from a few days to a few years. We are not in business to list sites for webmasters to gain, we are in business to build categories for the surfer and offering a site to DMOZ is only a suggestion. One which a volunteer editor may or may not chose to take any notice of.

funguru · #16 (**permalink**) 11-03-2009, 07:14 PM

DMOZ has become so slow thats its almost dead, anyone had their listings included recently? and how long did it take?

**Cricket** · #17 (**permalink**) 11-03-2009, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funguru

How do directories like below justify such high pricing while having low PR homepage and N/A PR on most inner page.?

Aviva Directory: Home Page PR 3: $149 / permanent link
Romow: Home Page PR 3: $60 Regular permanent link

Question for you: If there was no such thing as PR (or if it was no longer visible) how would you determine the quality of an incoming link? Is PR really your only factor?

funguru · #18 (**permalink**) 11-03-2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cricket

Question for you: If there was no such thing as PR (or if it was no longer visible) how would you determine the quality of an incoming link? Is PR really your only factor?

PR seems to be the only instant visible factor for quality.

robjones · #19 (**permalink**) 11-03-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by funguru

DMOZ has become so slow thats its almost dead, anyone had their listings included recently? and how long did it take?

Guru - The post above yours covers that. You're suggesting they're almost dead because theyre not performomg a service they actually never offered.

On the original question
Aside from that you've indicated you see no value in pretty much every directory. We got that point.

Based on the collective answers it appears the difference between your opinion and the consensus here is that you consider PR the only measure of value. I'm sure there are others that agree with you, but I don't think repeating the point is likely to change the mind of those that answered. It does however provide you with the reason that the directories in the OP are still in business... there are many people that make value judgments on factors you dont consider important but they do.

Fair summary?

**Cricket** · #20 (**permalink**) 11-03-2009, 08:10 PM

Some of the qualities I look for in a directory:

- The listings themselves. Do they have the same high quality standards of top directories? Or, are the pages filled with keywords and spam?

- How old is the directory? (the domain)

- Are others in my field listed there?