WebAtlas banned from Google

[Quadrille]

Originally Posted by DragonEye

And now in English please...

OK, I'll translate, slowly.

Y-o-u-r ... m-o-n-e-y, ... y-o-u-r ... c-h-o-i-c-e.

I'm normally polite, too - but I'm following your example

Fact is, we're all entitled to our opinion; you are, of course, entitled not to agree. The fact you get sniffy about it, speaks, as they say, volumes.

[bb99]

Originally Posted by Quadrille

And that's from a guy who can't tell the difference between frames and css.

While he was trolling at IHY, he was defending "new directories" - we explained that many of the new directories were simply spam, and would offer zip return on your dollar; he continued to defend them (by this time, we knew what was happening to WebAtlas (.org. not .com). Shawn continued to defend them.

We invited shawn (http://www.uncoverthenet.com/) to tell us how his site was different, if, as he claimed, his site was so wonderful.

At that point, shawn turned adolescent and flounced out.

I would genuinely like to know the difference (if any). We've long suspected that many (not all) of the 'new directories' were simply taking money and then leaving their customers in deep ****.

It is now entirely possible that Google has started to act against such directories. So it might be worth less sneering (shawn) and more serious questions.

And if shawn can't answer, come to IHY - as shawn will tell you, we answer your questions, rather than twist, turn and troll - See For Yourself

You seen to be targetting Uncoverthenet and Bluefind !!!

[bb99]

Hi Quadrille

1 .) Why are you so concern about this 2 site ???

2. ) did you submit your site into the directory ???

3.) what is your URL ???

4.) are you an SEO expect ???

can answer me the above 4 question that i am very eager to know !!! Let me invite you to tell us ... Please

[Srikanthsh]

One of them has an seo site that is in frames.

It is not a frame. It is a div with scrolling.

Personally I think its a server issue/redirect issue with webatlas

The website's age is very less. And has got many backlinks, and Lacs of unnecessary search results screens into the index. This could be a reason too.

Lol, that thread is a joke.

Not a joke. That thread is to educate people. So that, they would not loss money by investing for a listing from few directories(that are not moving with a good strategy).

[bb99]

Originally Posted by Srikanthsh

Not a joke. That thread is to educate people. So that, they would not loss money by investing for a listing from few directories(that are not moving with a good strategy).

This is your first posting in this forum ... Why are all the new member (with less than 5 post) here to educate people or are here to condemn people ....

[Srikanthsh]

BTW. my signature is not displayed. I filled the signature field in the CP. How can I make it visible?

[Srikanthsh]

This is your first posting in this forum ... Why are all the new member (with less than 5 post) here to educate people or are here to condemn people

Funny. I am not spamming the forums. I am not abusing anybody. Just expressed my opinion. Is this not public forums? Should not a member(with post count less than 5) express his opinion? Please let me know.


Ok. I got my signature displayed now. Thank you.

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[bb99]

I am also expression my opinion... am i wrong ??? wow super funny !!! I didnt say is you , i only asking Why are all the new member (with less than 5 post) here to educate people or are here to condemn people ....

I am asking !!! Can i ask ???

[Srikanthsh]

Ok Buddy.

BTW. I know the directory owner and she is my friend too. So, I have no interest to bad mouth.. Just, I too was trying to think of the reasons from various angles. I wish her get rid of the problem asap.

This forums look n feel is nice.

[bb99]

Hi !!!

[Shawn]

1st, about the frames issue: That was a smar ass comment by me, and I was out of place (can you tell my wife taught me well ). But the point was that a professional site (in this day and age) should not be in frames or appear to be in frames (in my opinion at least). But it's not my business.

Anyway, it's obvious the caliber of people who are jumping into this making accusations about directories. Guys, directories have been on the internet since Y!. Its the same as anything else. If they find some who allow **** ****es to be listed with anchor text and and a whole bunch of spam, then yeah they probably will not pass pr or benefits of that link to them. But guess what, it happens to all types of sites...not just directories. Look at statcounter.com and a ton of others. Best advice I have to give you about directories is that 1 link from any single on of them wont make or break your rankings. But combine 5 or 10 of them, and now you're talking.

[webmastery]

Looks like WebAtlas got hit with a poison arrow.

Nothing for the link: or site: command.

Bluefind has some pretty severe issues considering how almost all the pages lack descriptions. The Doug guy is pretty much a troll, but he has a point. All of these directories are being promoted heavily as "must submit to directories" yet their track records are very short.

[Srikanthsh]

Best advice I have to give you about directories is that 1 link from any single on of them wont make or break your rankings. But combine 5 or 10 of them, and now you're talking.

I am not able to understand this exactly. I am a little bad in english. If possible, eloborate it.

accusations about directories

I am not commenting about any particular directory in the following.

Yes. There have been directories on the web for a long time. But, these days, the directories are being started slolely to earn bucks from submission fee, google adsence etc.. this is the actual problem.

The vision has to be: creating a directory that will be a pure collection of quality/good resources for the users. Ofcourse, earn if you get some benefit from that. Good SEOs too look for these and submit their resource. If the website does not meet the submission guidlines, they will get rid of the garbage and make it good. So, the websites too get into a proper way.

If a directory has no good long term strategy or proper plan, it is obvious that they will fall. sometimes, greediness dominates the common sence. So, run for bucks; Loss the basic rule or vision.

Just my personal opinion. Have a lot to write. not able to frame into sentences. And I hope, you guys got my point.

[Shawn]

Originally Posted by Srikanthsh

If a directory has no good long term strategy or proper plan, it is obvious that they will fall. sometimes, greediness dominates the common sence.

Agreed 100%.

[Srikanthsh]

Hey buddy BB, I have crossed 5 posts now. Do you allow me to post my opinions now .

ok. kidding..

[gorillaboy]

Originally Posted by Quadrille

- we explained that many of the new directories were simply spam, and would offer zip return on your dollar; he continued to defend them...

How can a Web Directory be considered "SPAM"? I've never received a web directory in my inbox.

[Srikanthsh]

I've never received a web directory in my inbox.

It was not about email spam. There, we call any garbage/improper methods(not good practices)/etc etc... as spam.

[gorillaboy]

There, we call any garbage/improper methods(not good practices)/etc etc... as spam.

Oh, that's kind of reckless, considering every person's definition of "garbage/improper methods and not good practices" is different.

Is SEO spam?

[Srikanthsh]

Is SEO spam?

No. All SEO is not spam. All SEO professionals are not spamming. Unfortunately, there are spammers too among the SEOs.

Oh, that's kind of reckless, considering every person's definition of "garbage/improper methods and not good practices" is different

Ok. ignore the names. If you get the meaning, that is enough.

[Srikanthsh]

Because, personally, I dont like participating in arguments on opinion differences. Conceptually, fine. If we could understand what other professionals were speaking, enough..

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