WebAtlas banned from Google - Page 4

DragonEye · 12-31-2004, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by smindsrt

Wow... I think you watched X-files too much.

Even if that was the case something new will come along. Webmasters/Directories would just alter or find a way to get around it. Some people say "links" pages are worthless cause Google has a filter against them so people started using "resources" pages instead. Webmasters will adapt.

Personally I think your theory is absurd, I think Google has much more things to worry about than a quality directory passing PR. Why would they stop that anyway? Why not go after bigger fish first..... like Internet marketing sites.... but why??? Why would Goolge want to stop promotion on the Internet? THEY WON'T !!! Google is much more concerned about abuse and deceptive techniques rather than trying to block PR from legit site(s).

Because PageRank is meant to determine the quality of a page. By using paid directories you are in fact buying PageRank. And that means that the Google index will become less accurate. Google will try to prevent that in some way. I think you can be sure of that. I'm buying directory listings myself mate, but you gotta be realistic. At some point I think google will take action.

bb99 · 12-31-2004, 02:42 AM

If i dont submit to directory , where am i going to get/gain Link Popularity (backlink) ??? Link exchange ??? if i dont have a proper PR , noone will exchange link with me.

I think as long a directory is well organised, it is worth submitting. It give us a backlink and also at the some time it passing some PR(although PR is not that important anymore) to my site.

I still hopes that directory can alway play a part in google.

smindsrt · 12-31-2004, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DragonEye

Google index will become less accurate.

If you can't outrank a directory (which is usually a page several levels down, not SEO'd very well) then you don't deserve to be in the SERPS.

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Originally Posted by DragonEye

Google will try to prevent that in some way. I think you can be sure of that.

What makes you so sure? Most directories provide quality content, isn't that what a search engines are all about. Why would Google stop "paid directories" and not reciprocal directories, links and resources pages? Why not penalize every site on the net that has an "advertising" section, they all must be selling pagerank? SOMEONE ALERT GOOGLE THEY MUST NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS! OK...... If Google really wanted to "prevent" they would start with Internet Marketers. But guess what? It won't happen as long as sites provide quality content, again that's what the net is all about.

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Originally Posted by DragonEye

I'm buying directory listings myself mate, but you gotta be realistic.

Be realistic.... I guess anything could happen but your statement lacks fact and is pure speculation.

DragonEye · 12-31-2004, 02:58 AM

hmm...

I am not trying to offend you :-) so why are you so angry?

I just think that Google is not too happy with sites selling PageRank. That is all...
and real facts? Well, there never are... not with Google. That is what SEO is all about, it's always a bit of a guess.

DragonEye

bb99 · 12-31-2004, 03:04 AM

if google is not too happy with sites selling PR, it will automatic remove the PR from the toolbar. But till now its still there.

So they are still very happy ....

I submit my site to directory to gain Backlink, PR is just an additional gift from the directory.

I think most webmaster know that PR is not that important anymore. eee. am i right ???

I am not am SEO expert, i dont know much at all ... let us share our view in a friendly ways ... If i am wrong correct me....

Thanks,

6 more hrs its going to be 2005 in Singapore

awall19 · 12-31-2004, 03:10 AM

for the people who think buying a directory link is a manipulation of PageRank they may want to delink their post signatures since their posts are nothing more than a cheap attempt at manipulating PageRank

bb99 · 12-31-2004, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by awall19

for the people who think buying a directory link is a manipulation of PageRank they may want to delink their post signatures since their posts are nothing more than a cheap attempt at manipulating PageRank

eee.... what do you mean ??? i dont quite understand ...

smindsrt · 12-31-2004, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DragonEye

hmm...

I am not trying to offend you :-) so why are you so angry?

I just think that Google is not too happy with sites selling PageRank. That is all...
and real facts? Well, there never are... not with Google. That is what SEO is all about, it's always a bit of a guess.

DragonEye

Not angry at all.... I love a good discusion.

Actually there are real facts although the SEO world is ever changing many SEO's use proven methods and I fully agree it can be a big guessing game at times.

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Originally Posted by DragonEye

I just think that Google is not too happy with sites selling PageRank.

So why are you so focused on directories? I know of much bigger fish to fry. That's kind of like trying to put out a three alarm fire with a garden hose. All you will do is cause a little steam but the fire will rage on. I think the 60+++ PHD's that Google has are a bit smarter than that.

Atom · 12-31-2004, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bb99

eee.... what do you mean ??? i dont quite understand ...

smindsrt · 12-31-2004, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bb99

eee.... what do you mean ??? i dont quite understand ...

Everything that an SEO does is a manipulation.

bb99 · 12-31-2004, 03:27 AM

oh... my english is no good.... hehe. So is not saying me... Lucky

Atom you good, laugh at me ....

Atom · 12-31-2004, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bb99

oh... my english is no good.... hehe. So is not saying me... Lucky

Atom you good, laugh at me ....

It's the eee I'm laughing at ... I like that ..

Nick W · 12-31-2004, 03:34 AM

My Take on IHU

Those at IHU and in this thread are sad little people. They scream and whine about "ethics" - they cry like babies when someone beats them in the SERPS, which isnt hard as most of them couldnt SEO their way out of a paper bag.

They huddle together in that sad little outcast corner of the rejected, neglected and unloved social area of the web development world consoling eachother over their collective inadequacies and justifying their consitent failures with the moral chants of "cheater cheater cheater!".

They're spiteful, petty little misfits that the rest of the community at best ingore as insignificant.

This latest revelry in someone elses misfortune shows them for what they truly are. Vicious little misfits.

Atom · 12-31-2004, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick W

This latest revelry in someone elses misfortune shows them for what they truly are. Vicious little misfits.

Yeah, they're a what, not a who, and that's all I really need to know, TBH.

I have zero respect for people that hide their identity, and I'm not talking about lack of a photo avatar, either.

Zero respect.

It doesn't matter at all what they're saying, if they don't have any guts. Not to me.

I got your film@11 .... right here, buck!

smindsrt · 12-31-2004, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Atom

I got your film@11 .... right here, buck!

I like that! LOL

Atom · 12-31-2004, 04:25 AM

People are such damn cowards on the net, it really makes me sick. Goin' around and changin' their names every six months and sh!t. Pitiful!

Atom · 12-31-2004, 04:38 AM

No, I wasn't laughing at your English, bb99, just that expression eee really hit the ole funnybone..

I might have to start using that one.. I really like it..

bb99 · 12-31-2004, 05:06 AM

oh hehe....

Wow you got 7131 posting, you are super old bird (Singaporean like to use old bird for expert) here ....

Atom · 12-31-2004, 05:11 AM

Well, I am getting up there a bit, and I actually have been referred to as a bird more than a few times so, I guess I can't really squawk .. LOL

Now the expert part, well.... that's debatable..

bb99 · 12-31-2004, 05:24 AM

hehe !!! Mr old Bird