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Old 12-31-2004, 05:36 AM   #81 (permalink)
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hehe !!!

by the way is Joeant directory connected to IHU forum ?
Gee I don't know..

.. who's Joeant?

Any relation to atomant?

I've heard the names but have never been to the forums and don't even know what type of forums or sites they are. I'm what you might call a cyberhermit.

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Old 12-31-2004, 05:37 AM   #82 (permalink)
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hehe !!! Mr old Bird
Getting me back for the eee, I see..


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Old 12-31-2004, 05:41 AM   #83 (permalink)
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aaa... atomant ??? got this directory ma ???

what is the URL ???
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Old 12-31-2004, 05:43 AM   #84 (permalink)
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LOL. atom ant is a cartoon character from the ... 1960's I believe it was. Yeah, 1965 it was ... I remember watching it on TV when it came out. They didn't have URL's back then.

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Old 12-31-2004, 05:46 AM   #85 (permalink)
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wow kao. .... i am 23 only .... how i will know 1960 cartoon character ....

haha ...
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Old 12-31-2004, 05:50 AM   #86 (permalink)
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Sept. of 1965 that cartoon came out, I didn't care much for that one. I was 12 years old, I was a bit old for that type of cartoon.
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wow you super old lo !!!

1965 i dont know where am i

haha we turn this tread into our chat room .... will the moderater ban me ???
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Old 12-31-2004, 05:59 AM   #88 (permalink)
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No, but he might me ..

We'd better not ruin this lovely thread any further.. I've got some work to do anyways...

nice chatting w/you..
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No need to hold back your true feelings here, Nick. LOL

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My Take on IHU

Those at IHU and in this thread are sad little people. They scream and whine about "ethics" - they cry like babies when someone beats them in the SERPS, which isnt hard as most of them couldnt SEO their way out of a paper bag.

They huddle together in that sad little outcast corner of the rejected, neglected and unloved social area of the web development world consoling eachother over their collective inadequacies and justifying their consitent failures with the moral chants of "cheater cheater cheater!".

They're spiteful, petty little misfits that the rest of the community at best ingore as insignificant.

This latest revelry in someone elses misfortune shows them for what they truly are. Vicious little misfits.
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Isn't the whole thing about directories that they provide the *human touch* to determining what is a "quality" site. No algorithm can determine that completely (yet).

Of course I am not saying all directories are like that. Probably a small minority.

I think you have not to say google will discount directories (in general). That would be a bad business decision. Sure G may come to discount some directories (who knows - are you Nostradamus?) but there will ALWAYS (near future at least) be a market for QUALITY directories (hence the reason for DMOZs popularity in the early days->today).

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Those at IHU and in this thread are sad little people. They scream and whine about "ethics" - they cry like babies when someone beats them in the SERPS, which isnt hard as most of them couldnt SEO their way out of a paper bag.

They huddle together in that sad little outcast corner of the rejected, neglected and unloved social area of the web development world consoling eachother over their collective inadequacies and justifying their consitent failures with the moral chants of "cheater cheater cheater!".

They're spiteful, petty little misfits that the rest of the community at best ingore as insignificant.

This latest revelry in someone elses misfortune shows them for what they truly are. Vicious little misfits.
Exactly. Exactly. Exactly.
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Old 12-31-2004, 08:35 AM   #92 (permalink)
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About the submissions to directories are the same as buying PR, I disagree. That might be the intentions of the buyer, but not the directory.

Most directories charge a *review* fee. In other words that money you spend for inclusion is for the editors time and such. Not to buy some of their pagerank. Directories that charge a review fee have been going on for years and years. I can show you a bunch of directories that have been doing it for over 4 years.

Brett Tabke once said something like if your selling advertising space or charging for inclusion into a directory, just market it as selling advertising, selling a service etc...not pagerank and you have nothing to worry about.

I think everyone here is forgetting about conversions here. Is a $20-50 one time fee worth a possible sale? I mean if a submission to a directory doesnt directly or indirectly help you earn 1 sale over several years...then I'd question that directory's marketing capabilites.

Keywords in listings? Have any of you contacted Jupiter Media about a $5000/month advertisement? Cause if you ask them to list your advertising link as your company name they'll tell you NO. They want it descriptive to the users of their sites. They dont want a link that says for instance Bluefind. What normal users know what Bluefind is? They want it to say Web Directory.

Therefore, many directories offer extra descriptive words in the title text for more $$. But what does it do for the listing? Increases clickthroughs. Why? Because now people know what the company is, or are compelled to click it more.

Once again..it's been going on since the dawn of the internet.

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The most telling thing about these people is not how they treat you when you are on top, but how they treat you when you are down.
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What an educated statement! So are you against link popularity? Or PR? Or Both? You must rank really well!
I'm against neither and yes we do rank very well.

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"links"
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"add URL" pages?
I don't know, what about them?

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Do you think webmasters submit to those pages on non-directory sites just for fun?
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What about you, do you sit around and submit to those pages just to complete your evening?
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Webmasters will always do what it takes to rank sites
Yes but the VAST majority never make it. Many that do (via link schemes etc) only have a few minutes of sunshine.

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I have leady stated "why". As for "the other pages" (whatever they are) they will naturally "go after" them as they always have done.

[qoute]IMO, link popularity will always have some factor on SERPS even if it is small.[/quote]Probably, but a link is not a link.
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I think the webmasters arfe much more concerned with PR than the directory owners. I think Google ought to get rid of PR altogether. True "page rank" should be based on traffic, not links.
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From what Nandini's told me, it's simply a 302 issue - as like happened to Business.com in the summer. So I should expect and hope to see Webatlas back in Google very soon.
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Trouble is many Directories now-a-days rely on high PR categories to convince Webmasters to part with their $. In other words, some directory Webmasters are the BIGGEST PR junkies.
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