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06-26-2007, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by EBORG9
Is there anyone here who has all of their sites listed that still thinks it's corrupt?
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Corrupt? I don't know about that, but definitely less than transparent.
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06-26-2007, 08:24 AM
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I use to be an editor for Dmoz. They catagory i enforced was a category you would think that would get 3 sites submitted a year. I would say i approved 1 out of 5000 links that was submitted. There was an average of 5-10 thousand links submitted to the category every 48 hours.
It takes an average of 5 to 10 minutes to research a single domain submitted before you approve it or dismiss it.
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06-26-2007, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Brent Moeller
I use to be an editor for Dmoz. They catagory i enforced was a category you would think that would get 3 sites submitted a year. I would say i approved 1 out of 5000 links that was submitted. There was an average of 5-10 thousand links submitted to the category every 48 hours.
It takes an average of 5 to 10 minutes to research a single domain submitted before you approve it or dismiss it.
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I would imagine it's mostly spam, splogs, and suck ass sites, is that correct?
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06-26-2007, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by EBORG9
I would imagine it's mostly spam, splogs, and suck ass sites, is that correct?
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That pretty much boils it down.
Spam will be the death of dmoz, as it's already close to putting the site to sleep.
Dmoz has bit of more than it can chew without a doubt.
Imagine how stupid this is. Dmoz logs ips on submission. If a bot or a person submits multiple domains its considered spam and every site submitted with that ip gets tossed in the trash for the editor to never see.
The ip will stay in the trash bin for 6 months before its released, and every site submitted under that ip will get trashed .
So in other if you submit to dmoz using one of these thousands of hot ip's, and its possible, then your site is doomed instantly.
Last edited by Brent Moeller : 06-26-2007 at 09:20 AM.
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06-26-2007, 09:13 AM
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Why do people think that every site must be listed in dmoz?  Do quality, you will get what you deserve. I know what I am talking about.
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06-26-2007, 09:26 AM
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When you have a company in the stock market with over 500 dollars a share dont you think someone would have already found something curupt with that company.  They played the game, and certainly one the lottery ticket when they built there search.
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06-26-2007, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Brent Moeller
That pretty much boils it down.
Spam will be the death of dmoz, as it's already close to putting the site to sleep.
Dmoz has bit of more than it can chew without a doubt.
Imagine how stupid this is. Dmoz logs ips on submission. If a bot or a person submits multiple domains its considered spam and every site submitted with that ip gets tossed in the trash for the editor to never see.
The ip will stay in the trash bin for 6 months before its released, and every site submitted under that ip will get trashed .
So in other if you submit to dmoz using one of these thousands of hot ip's, and its possible, then your site is doomed instantly.
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So using that logic, if you are on a hub, with high speed access, and someone on your hub has committed an infraction...you are screwed?
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06-26-2007, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by EBORG9
So using that logic, if you are on a hub, with high speed access, and someone on your hub has committed an infraction...you are screwed?
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yes !
It is stupid to ban ip addresses as some like me have different ip addresses each time I log on using my Internet connection!
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06-26-2007, 10:08 PM
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I submitted my site to dmoz but received an email back stating that I was a lead generator for a competitor and I could not be listed. That doesn't make sense because I am a broker.
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06-27-2007, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by factoring
That doesn't make sense because I am a broker.
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DMOZ dosen't list them either.
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06-27-2007, 08:18 PM
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DMOZ is NOT Corrupt
Having tried to keep up with 200 free link submissions each and every day for just a few weeks with my general directory I have some idea of just how hard it might be to handle the loads of listings and other crap the volunteer DMOZ editors must have to wade through every day.
I suppose with thousands of inbound links editors get pretty quick to pull the "reject" lever. I also suspect they, like most humans, are more willing to review and accept listings from people they know. I do not however suspect they accept payments or favors in return. Sure maybe a bad apple has, but I just have a hard time believing they're doing anything like a politician might do, if you know what I mean.
I waded through some categories earlier today and was surprised at how many categories had "help wanted" signs out for volunteer editors. Unfortunately when I clicked the page wouldn;t come up, but I plan on jumping in and contributing for awhile in one of the Parenting sub-categories if they'll have me.
Cheers
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06-27-2007, 08:19 PM
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Err... I think I'm going to merge this with the existing conversation, as it's a response. 
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06-27-2007, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick
Is it just me or is DMOZ now corrupt?
I have submitted all of my sites to DMOZ, and not one has been accepted. This is over a year and half ago. I heard there are now corrupt editors that are now not accepting competitive websites.
It Seems I could get struck by lightening before I get listed in DMOZ.
What do you think?
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DMOZ is not corrupt. However, some of DMOZ editor are corrupted  That is why I never bother to re-submit my website to DMOZ ever again 
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06-30-2007, 11:55 PM
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DMOZ reminds me of a car that has run out of petrol
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07-03-2007, 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by akc9000
As a former DMOZ editor I can tell you it is not corruption but rather a lack of caring. If you were not paid, and you had 10,000 submission to review what would you do? And yes, if it directly competes with them, you do not get listed.
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I applied to be an editor. That request got rejected too, with some funny explanations! If the number of submissions are huge, they need to induct more volunteers also ..
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