Is DMOZ corrupt?

[Birdie]

Originally Posted by intech

Given everything that has been said about it, why should it still be so respected by Google?

Probably becasue they don't see it the way you do.

[intech]

Originally Posted by Birdie

Probably because they don't see it the way you do.

That's obvious. I wonder how they see it.

In my opinion, things like DMOZ and Yahoo directories are remnants of the past. Why is there so much prestige associated with them? Does anybody use them? In all honestly, I don't even know how to get to the Yahoo directory from their home page. Do they even have a link to it anymore? As far as DMOZ, what practical use is there for it? Seriously, do you think that as many as 1% of internet users even know it exists, much less use it.

[Sami4u]

Hi

DMOZ is over rated and just not worth your time IMHO

Butterflies Forever
Sami

[progenic]

You can't determine who's corrupt or not, you have to observe and investigate..

[Birdie]

Originally Posted by intech

That's obvious. I wonder how they see it.

Google collect and analyse a lot of data. They would have tested the effects on the global quality of the search results if they give an extra boost to a link from DMOZ (or yahoo) and if they don't. They will know exactly what the effect is on the global quality of the results. It dosen't matter what you or I think; it dosen't matter what the urban myths of SEO forums are; it dosen't matter if a particular site is listed or not ....Google will trust their testing.

[intech]

Originally Posted by Birdie

Google collect and analyse a lot of data. They would have tested the effects on the global quality of the search results if they give an extra boost to a link from DMOZ (or yahoo) and if they don't. They will know exactly what the effect is on the global quality of the results. It dosen't matter what you or I think; it dosen't matter what the urban myths of SEO forums are; it dosen't matter if a particular site is listed or not ....Google will trust their testing.

To me it's a self-fulfilling prophecy or a circular argument. If Google believes a site is important, then it becomes important because Google believes it's important. If Google puts your site at #1 in it's search results, you will get a ton of traffic, therefore validating your importance.

[fastreplies]

Originally Posted by Birdie

Google collect and analyse a lot of data. They would have tested the effects on the global quality of the search results if they give an extra boost to a link from DMOZ (or yahoo) and if they don't. They will know exactly what the effect is on the global quality of the results. It dosen't matter what you or I think; it dosen't matter what the urban myths of SEO forums are; it dosen't matter if a particular site is listed or not ....Google will trust their testing.

“Global quality of the results” Give me a break.

For Google DMOZ is nothing more than marriage of convenience. Why bother build directory from scratch if they have whole army of slaves’ volunteers working for them for nothing.

If Google care about DMOZ index as much as you think, it would have sites listed in DMOZ on top and we would have first 10 pages or more filled with DMOZ links. But Google made conscious decision not to use DMOZ and keep it around as house pet only because they need one around the house anyway.

No one will deny that if Google drop DMOZ it won’t affect it structure or make even minuscule dent in Google’s existence but it sure will make DMOZ completely insignificant and very wretched place.

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[Birdie]

Originally Posted by fastreplies

If Google care about DMOZ index as much as you think

Do you read replies before you respond? Where did I say that? Why do you consistently make things up?

I will type this bit slowly, so you can understand it:
All I said was that if Google give and extra weight to a DMOZ listed site or not it will be because of their testing of that weight on the search results. It will have nothing to do with what you or I think. Personally, I do not think they do (and I have said that many times).

[budalata]

...if they have whole army of slaves’ volunteers

Dont feel like a slave

[cldnails]

This thread has been resurrected!!!

I hate a few of the editors that work there, because I caught them putting their scraper sites in the directory, but not my site where they were getting all the content. Talk about frustrating.

[budalata]

because I caught them putting their scraper sites in the directory

As I can see - past tense. Guess that you know how and where to report abusive editing. And - please have in mind that people who proceed with these abuse reports, are great lovers of evidences.

[cldnails]

Originally Posted by budalata

As I can see - past tense. Guess that you know how and where to report abusive editing. And - please have in mind that people who proceed with these abuse reports, are great lovers of evidences.

Oh yeah, I pitched a bitch.

[fastreplies]

Originally Posted by budalata

As I can see - past tense. Guess that you know how and where to report abusive editing. And - please have in mind that people who proceed with these abuse reports, are great lovers of evidences.

Given that the same people who have abused you in the first place are going to review your complain,
I'll bet you will get your satisfaction (in your dreams)


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[USGreenLiving]

I believe DMOZ is poorly managed. The cat editors are allowed to do whatever they please.

My Green Living Article site was listed in the Sustainable Living category for several months and then taken down without any notice.

I have sent the 2 editors of that category many emails but have received no response as to the reason for my site being down.

I think the Management and staffiing of DMOZ needs a major overhaul. Let's all post our thoughts about DMOZ on every forum possible and hope in doing so that our concerns are finally met.

[sitetutor]

Originally Posted by USGreenLiving

I believe DMOZ is poorly managed. The cat editors are allowed to do whatever they please.

My Green Living Article site was listed in the Sustainable Living category for several months and then taken down without any notice.

I have sent the 2 editors of that category many emails but have received no response as to the reason for my site being down.

I think the Management and staffiing of DMOZ needs a major overhaul. Let's all post our thoughts about DMOZ on every forum possible and hope in doing so that our concerns are finally met.

Webmasters have been doing that for many years without any changes being made. Like one of the posters has stated on page 1 of this thread:
DMOZ will never be fixed.

[x2049]

Dmoz editors are either corrupt or just power drunk.

[livePR.ezer.com]

A question

Do you get any traffic from DMOZ ?

[ranter]

Originally Posted by livePR.ezer.com

A question

Do you get any traffic from DMOZ ?

Big NO

We're getting more traffic from MavicaNet, AMRAY, IllumiRate, Amfibi and others than from DMOZ

[Birdie]

Originally Posted by USGreenLiving

I believe DMOZ is poorly managed. The cat editors are allowed to do whatever they please.
My Green Living Article site was listed in the Sustainable Living category for several months and then taken down without any notice.
I have sent the 2 editors of that category many emails but have received no response as to the reason for my site being down.
I think the Management and staffiing of DMOZ needs a major overhaul. Let's all post our thoughts about DMOZ on every forum possible and hope in doing so that our concerns are finally met.

If DMOZ is so poorly managed, how come it has grown to being the biggest directory on the www? (and no other directory comes remotely close to that size) How come it is the fastest growing directory on the www? (and no other directory comes remotely close to that growth). Thats awesome management, not poor management.

Where did you ever get the impression from that DMOZ is under some sort of obligation to provide you with any sort of service? So you expect DMOZ needs a major overhaul, just because YOUR service expectations are not being met? In that case ask them for a refund.

[ranter]

Originally Posted by Birdie

In that case ask them for a refund.

Are you saying that DMOZ started issuing refunds? It's about time

I have figured they own me about $500.00 but... I will take $100.00 in cash or 10 eBay Reputation points but only if DMOZ will promise me never to add any of my sites again so I can generate more cash and eBay points.

Where should I go to apply for refund?