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04-18-2012, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by C0ldf1re
And just how would editors find brilliant new sites in their category to review? Wait for the new sites to eventually crawl up to a noticeable position in Google serps? Or just use their physic powers?
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Granted your response is tongue in cheek, but in all seriousness I think it depends upon the editor.
Some editors probably rely heavily on suggestions. So for them, yup it probably would basically ruin their entire experience.
Being in a position where I run a resource that takes submissions, from my perspective if I relied on them the resource would be dead. I suspect the best editors at DMOZ are the ones that go out and find good websites, and this would be reflected in the value of their content. How do they find them? Well, if it's a hobby I would expect that they are in an area they have a great degree of knowledge in and already have access to dozens of websites in that scope.
From there, they would also be involved in forums that discuss websites related to their area of interest, and would find them that way.
e.g. I have a colleague who is into Vintage Radio as a long term collection hobby. I wouldn't expect that to be a niche that many people know anything about... He is part of an association and also reads magazine's like Silicon Chip which also advertise websites within his niche. He has met many people through these activities (and also buying/selling on eBay even). He now runs a successful forum from which he generates further discussions...
So, there are obviously plenty of avenues available to people with their eyes open, to find resources within their niche aside from Google search and hope. Of course as your response indicates, there would be a lot of editors who would be lost without a submission pile to work through. They probably have the weakest categories/content to begin with.
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04-20-2012, 09:49 PM
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its important, buy you have to wait years to get in to dmoz, but its ok,
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04-20-2012, 10:57 PM
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I'd say that Dmoz is important. Not saying thay because I'm an experienced SEO, but cause it's still very popular. Being that popular it means it's important and people know that, experienced people too. So I will try and go for it. Might take forever but it doesn't hurt trying right?
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04-21-2012, 01:07 AM
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Yes, DMOZ is pretty important but it is not something you cannot live without. However, it is more a matter of luck into being accepted than anything else. I`ve submitted a lot of websites and some of them got approved in a few weeks or a couple of months, while some other never have. If you submit a good website (as it is defined in their submission guidelines) to the right category and you add a good description, it is just up to the editor.
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04-21-2012, 02:04 AM
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Ofcourse, but like the All Mighty Google sais, "Every link is a good link". I like my nick too BTW!
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04-21-2012, 06:19 AM
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I am on the net hours every day......do a lot of general research and forum work...
I have not been to DMOZ in about 12 years....how can that be an important site?
There are too many places to get good links....I like my Yahoo links...  )
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04-21-2012, 06:41 AM
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Alright... so... if Dmoz isn't important anymore then maybe you would be kind enough to tell us more about these Yahoo links, I would appreciate that very much. As a newbie, I am looking for good backlinking strategies, especially since my site got unranked.
Thanks!
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04-21-2012, 06:44 AM
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My sites normally get picked up quickly by Yahoo.....
Might be due to my thousands of forum links...
But I have been at this for years,,,,
Does not happen over night.....
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04-21-2012, 06:49 AM
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Yes, you're right, it doesn't happen over night, I am pretty sure about that. I'm trying for weeks to rank my site higher and all I've been doing is the opposite of my goal.
About Yahoo... in my experience (as little as it is) I've noticed it usually indexes faster than Google.
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04-21-2012, 12:57 PM
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I'm trying for weeks to rank my site higher and all I've been doing is the opposite of my goal.
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Its not so much you have been doing the opposite, more correct would be that your competitors are doing the SEO faster and better than you.
Its a constant competition and if you sit there, you are actually going backwards so SEO is something that needs to be attended to on a daily basis, for as long as the site is operating.
Failure to do so means you fall behind as your competitors build strength and backlinks.
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04-21-2012, 01:17 PM
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You know, you might be right... except the fact that i'm not just sitting... I'm researching and doing SEo every day. The bad part is that i tried using one of those social bookmarking service... and with the google updates the sites got de-indexed, and down went my site too ( could of been penalised ). Everything changed since then, but in the past few days I am seeing improvement. And I like to belive it is because of my efforts of bringing things back where they were, or atleast close.
Thanks for your reply!
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04-21-2012, 06:54 PM
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And I like to belive it is because of my efforts of bringing things back where they were, or atleast close.
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And i have no doubt it is your efforts so keep doing what you are doing, work harder and smarter than your opponents and success will surely follow.
It simply takes time and patience
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04-26-2012, 04:04 AM
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As everyone else suggested, apply to DMOZ and then move on to creating cross and back links from relevant sites and directories elsewhere. It is a SLOW game, but one that works over time  .
But DMOZ is important; don't underestimate it.
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04-26-2012, 01:28 PM
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Its certainly worth get a listing on DMOZ. Since it is free, you can just submit the listing and forget about it and hope one day it gets approved.
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04-27-2012, 02:59 AM
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Consider this, you want an authoritative link and we all know dmoz is an authoritative site which gives traffic as well. Wouldn't you want a link from that authority site?
My answer: Why not?
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05-09-2012, 12:58 AM
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DMOZ one of the oldest directories and most loved by google, and easily the hardest to get on because all submissions are manually approved and it can take months to years. I personally don't think it's worth the hassle so I don't bother with it.
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05-26-2012, 04:29 AM
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How long is one required to wait after Dmoz submission. Its been over a year with no replies - is the link been even reviewed
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05-26-2012, 06:10 AM
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I finally decided to submit one of my websites to dmoz. I know I probably have a chance in a million, but it doesn't hurt to try. A link on a decent or even high pr page will not hurt your SEO at all. Looking more into it, I think it is worth it. After submitting to some directories I had a significant increase in rankings.
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05-26-2012, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mycarhelpline
How long is one required to wait after Dmoz submission. Its been over a year with no replies - is the link been even reviewed
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This has been mentioned before on v7n. Dmoz, does not send you a email if you listing was rejected or accepted. No time table on when or if your listing will be reviewed by a editor.
If it's not listed by now then move on to another directory that is more active in reviewing listings much faster.
Do you think Dmoz is good for SEO?
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05-26-2012, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Gillum
I am on the net hours every day......do a lot of general research and forum work...
I have not been to DMOZ in about 12 years....how can that be an important site?
There are too many places to get good links....I like my Yahoo links...  )
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I get what you are saying, but I also think it is a dangerous association to make.
Because, I am on the net probably 16 hours a day, every day since the thing was created. And I've never been to your websites. So... how can they be important sites?
Just because they aren't important to me, doesn't mean they aren't important to someone else.
I find DMOZ extremely important. I use it for research all the time. Of course, it relates to what I do, so it's natural for it to be an important resource for me.
And now to comment to the rest of the thread... I think where people go wrong is in their obsession to gain a DMOZ listing. In the grand scheme of things a listing in DMOZ will neither make or break a site.
It's unfortunate that when people read certain responses on the internet, that sometimes don't take note of the date it was said.
The fact that people still come onto forum's asking about how to submit to DMOZ or gain a DMOZ listing or whether it is good for SEO when there are literally hundreds of the same threads available, on this forum and other forums, with all the same answers is dumbfounding. We should just have one thread. Merge them all together. And let people read the broken record till they get the picture
Is DMOZ any good for SEO? Yup.
Will you gain a listing? Nup.
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