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07-17-2006, 08:44 PM
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Since someone's revived this thread, now I feel as if I can ask:
Is there a link somewhere as to what DMOZ requires in order to get something listed? I've been trying to get my forums listed for 20 months, with no luck. I haven't the foggiest notion why. If there's a list of what DMOZ looks for, I'd suuure like to see it!
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07-17-2006, 08:52 PM
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How do you guys know who editors are? I would like to get to know some editors. If not to get in, atleast to learn some.
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07-18-2006, 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BinkyMelnik
Since someone's revived this thread, now I feel as if I can ask:
Is there a link somewhere as to what DMOZ requires in order to get something listed? I've been trying to get my forums listed for 20 months, with no luck. I haven't the foggiest notion why. If there's a list of what DMOZ looks for, I'd suuure like to see it!
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http://dmoz.org/guidelines/include.html
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07-18-2006, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BinkyMelnik
Since someone's revived this thread, now I feel as if I can ask:
Is there a link somewhere as to what DMOZ requires in order to get something listed? I've been trying to get my forums listed for 20 months, with no luck. I haven't the foggiest notion why. If there's a list of what DMOZ looks for, I'd suuure like to see it!
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There is only one thing that is of importance: enough unique content
If a site is not listed there are 2 possibilities
1) and most probable: it isn't reviewed yet, in some categories reviews can take up to several years after a site is suggested
2) it was rejected, you can already know if a site is or will be rejected by reading the guidelines (link already provided by DebbieV)
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07-18-2006, 11:49 AM
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Debbie:
Thanks! Now I'm more baffled than ever! Uh, 'cept PaulX cleared up my bafflement: "it isn't reviewed yet, in some categories reviews can take up to several years after a site is suggested."
Well, I've been waiting 20 months, so by my reckoning, I only have another 20 or so to go! =:-|
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08-18-2006, 07:44 PM
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Hello,
I tried many times to get listed with my site (the link is on my signature) on DMOZ with no succes. I really don't know what is wrong.
Someone can help me?
Thanks
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08-18-2006, 08:07 PM
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Most likely the site hasn't been reviewed yet. I hear ecommerce categories have large numbers of sites awaiting review.
Quit "trying" - you might be hurting yourself. Resubmiting overwrites the existing submission and if the editor sorts by date, you're back at the bottom every time you resubmit.
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08-18-2006, 09:18 PM
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DebbieV,
This is the main problem with DMOZ, there is no way to know if the site is pending or rejected. We don't know either the time to wait between two submissions.
Thank you
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08-18-2006, 11:52 PM
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The time to wait between suggestions is forever.
Once a suggestion is received there are only two ways it can get removed from the database.
1) it is accepted - you will know because you can see it in the directory
2) it is rejected - you can already know if a site will be rejected by studying the guidelines
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08-19-2006, 08:54 AM
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I guess the most important factor in getting listed soon or wait for years is in accordance with the keywords of your choice. I have seen some websites getting listed in a couple of weeks because their website was not targetted for hot keyterms. I gradually begin to consider a connection between the sandbox period length and DMOZ waiting period, i.e, the selection of keywords does matter.
The hotter keyterms selected, the more you should wait to get listed.
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08-19-2006, 09:17 AM
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2) it is rejected - you can already know if a site will be rejected by studying the guidelines
PaulX I read many times the DMOZ guidelines even in the French version. I can understand all the editors are volunters and cannot review thousands site quickly. In this situation why not to make available a url status. When you are editor you know the status of all the sites, just put it available to the webmasters. DMOZ will save editor time and that will give a great information for us. This is just a suggestion to avoid misunderstanding.
To answer you on this: 2) it is rejected - you can already know if a site will be rejected by studying the guidelines. If all the webmasters should know, there will be no post in this forum about that. You can always pretend our understanding. It is always easy when you know, but when you are novice like me, you are spending time to figure out the problem, if you cannot you stuck, if nobody help you failed.
Bermuda thanks for the info.
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08-19-2006, 09:23 AM
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Thats really lucky for you, i have been queuing for months and yet to be receiving any response.
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08-19-2006, 06:03 PM
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1) it is accepted - you will know because you can see it in the directory
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it is rejected - you can already know if a site will be rejected by studying the guidelines
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To Natural Elements:
I'm very sorry that most DMOZ Editors cannot answer a simple question. Its either that they are just plain stupid or they like torturing other people. I hope if they can't give a straight answer they should ommitt answering at all.
I just want to apologize ahead since I am having a bad day today and these kind of answers would put me to rip their eyeballs off their faces if they were just in front of me. Seriously, I am running out of patience with these people who are self-righteous and they are not. They think of themselves as the higher forms of being.
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08-19-2006, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Natural Elements
When you are editor you know the status of all the sites, just put it available to the webmasters. DMOZ will save editor time and that will give a great information for us. This is just a suggestion to avoid misunderstanding.
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Editors don't know the status of all suggested sites. An editor can only see the information of sites suggested in categories he is allowed to work in. For sites suggested in other categories he can only see some information if an other editor has handled the suggestion (moved it to another category or rejeted it).
Some DMOZ editors tried to answer status request on Resource Zone but after a few years it was decided that this did not help DMOZ nor did it help honest webmasters.
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Originally Posted by Natural Elements
To answer you on this: 2) it is rejected - you can already know if a site will be rejected by studying the guidelines. If all the webmasters should know, there will be no post in this forum about that. You can always pretend our understanding. It is always easy when you know, but when you are novice like me, you are spending time to figure out the problem, if you cannot you stuck, if nobody help you failed.
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If you are an honest webmaster (and most are) and you can not find a reason in the guidelines your site will be rejected for you can be sure your site is still waiting review (a proces that can take upto several years in some categories).
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Originally Posted by tantantin
I'm very sorry that most DMOZ Editors cannot answer a simple question. Its either that they are just plain stupid or they like torturing other people. I hope if they can't give a straight answer they should ommitt answering at all.
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And this from a former editor who was removed for misusing his editor priveleges and claiming to have become an editor again under another name. Makes you wonder what his intentions are. Makes you wonder how coloured his postings are.
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08-20-2006, 03:41 AM
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Sorry DMOZ editor. This is not Resource Zone. Again, I will repeat it. Its either you answer questions in a straight forward manner or refrain giving your RZ crap over here. You can't think straight and your tongue is coming out like a dog. Do yourself a favor and get a much needed blowjob. Maybe this will awaken you to reality and get you going straight.
Also Lens Crafters have a special offer of buy 1 get 1 free prescription glasses. Postings are mostly in black. Not coulored.
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08-20-2006, 11:01 AM
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thats highly cool I have been waiting to get into DMOZ for amost 4 months now if bordom could kill then waiting to be listed in DMOZ would be the death of me lol
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08-20-2006, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rubeina
That's cool!!! Congrats
I am still waiting... (4 months already  )
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i been waiting 3 years................................. 
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08-20-2006, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulX
You should know that DMOZ only lists one site from the same onwer if his other sites are about the same or related subjects. That is why your second site is not listed.
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How they verified it's the same owner?
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08-20-2006, 09:23 PM
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I'm inclined to think Dmoz is a bit overrated. One of my sites (afp-reelsandpallets.com) got listed in Dmoz, but it hasn't shown a marked improvement over my other web sites that haven't gotten accepted or have been rejected. Don't get me wrong, Dmoz get's you an automatic google pagerank of (3 I think), but to be honest, the easiest way to get fast search engine rankings is by posting urls in high traffic forums and industrial directories (like macrae's blue book).
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08-21-2006, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by calvinfroedge
I'm inclined to think Dmoz is a bit overrated.
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I, as a DMOZ editor, completely agree with you on this one.
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Originally Posted by calvinfroedge
Don't get me wrong, Dmoz get's you an automatic google pagerank of (3 I think),
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As will any other link on a PR 4 or 5 page.
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Originally Posted by calvinfroedge
but to be honest, the easiest way to get fast search engine rankings is by posting urls in high traffic forums and industrial directories (like macrae's blue book).
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If a webmaster is looking for a quick way to get into the search results DMOZ is not the thing to use. You might be lucky and the site gets included within a few weeks after the site is suggested. But you also may be unlucky and have to wait several years. The options given by calvinfroedge are much better for you to get a quick entry in the search enigines.
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