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07-28-2006, 11:12 AM
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#21 (permalink)
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v7n Mentor
Join Date: 02-16-06
Location: Evansville, IN
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Originally Posted by tantantin
Thanks also for that editor who contacted you whoever he is. Hats off to you, sir.
See forums like V7N is an excellent form of communicating line; exchanging ideas and the likes which can benefit its members.
Good Luck to you too cldnails. 
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Thank you tantantin, also, I've received a PM from a higher up editor as well. So now 2 are looking into the matter. Again, all I see is bad stuff being talked about DMOZ, I have to mention when I feel like something positive is happening.
Just seeing a few editors showing interest makes me feel better.
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07-28-2006, 11:21 AM
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#22 (permalink)
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Join Date: 04-12-06
Location: QBC Land
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Originally posted by cldnails
Thank you tantantin, also, I've received a PM from a higher up editor as well. So now 2 are looking into the matter. Again, all I see is bad stuff being talked about DMOZ, I have to mention when I feel like something positive is happening.
Just seeing a few editors showing interest makes me feel better.
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Shadow575, Jim Noble Compostannie and Bobrat(Paul or Mac) are some of the few senior eds who works hard. I know shadow he works hard and has been promoted twice this year alone. Jim was my approving meta and Mac he's fine. Bad stuff that I talk about them is on another matter because most of them is not Honest and One Sided. But if they desrve to be commended why not. They desrve it. Again thanks for the immediate assistance whoever you are.

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07-29-2006, 12:40 AM
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#23 (permalink)
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v7n Mentor
Join Date: 07-27-06
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Same here,I've submitted many times,but never got a response 
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07-29-2006, 01:37 AM
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#24 (permalink)
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Join Date: 05-05-06
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Originally Posted by Richie_Ni
Same here,I've submitted many times,but never got a response 
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After suggesting a site to DMOZ you will not get a response. Not when the site is listed (you can see yourself) and not when it is rejected (you could know by studying the guidelines).
If you suggest a site many times a few things can happen
1) you suggested the site to the same category
result: the suggestion overwrites the older suggestion and does by so reset the suggestiondate, if an editor reviews suggestions by date you have just moved yourself to the back of his queue (there are other ways of sorting suggested sites so maybe you are lucky and the editor is not using the suggestiondate).
2) you suggest to different categories: do this enough times and you could be marked as a spammer and you and all of your sites could be banned
As could be read on http://dmoz.org/add.html (which DMOZ asks you to read and to confirm that you have done so)
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Please only submit a URL to the Open Directory once. Again, multiple submissions of the same or related sites may result in the exclusion and/or deletion of those and all affiliated sites. Disguising your submission and submitting the same URL more than once is not permitted.
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So please stop suggesting your site over and over again.
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07-29-2006, 01:40 AM
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aka Colleen
Join Date: 03-25-04
Location: Canada
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Originally Posted by PaulX
After suggesting a site to DMOZ you will not get a response. Not when the site is listed (you can see yourself) and not when it is rejected (you could know by studying the guidelines).
If you suggest a site many times a few things can happen
1) you suggested the site to the same category
result: the suggestion overwrites the older suggestion and does by so reset the suggestiondate, if an editor reviews suggestions by date you have just moved yourself to the back of his queue (there are other ways of sorting suggested sites so maybe you are lucky and the editor is not using the suggestiondate).
2) you suggest to different categories: do this enough times and you could be marked as a spammer and you and all of your sites could be banned
As could be read on http://dmoz.org/add.html (which DMOZ asks you to read and to confirm that you have done so)
So please stop suggesting your site over and over again.
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Alrighty then Paul... oh and DMOZ SUCKS!! 
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07-29-2006, 02:40 AM
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#26 (permalink)
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Join Date: 05-05-06
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Originally Posted by Colleen
... oh and DMOZ SUCKS!! 
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Can you explain me why.
You have an opportunity to get listed in the directory totaly for free. The only thing you have to do is spend some time reading the guidelines and suggesting your site. And in many occasions you not even have to do that, many sites are listed without ever being suggested.
If you are looking for ways to promote your site DMOZ is not the place to go. Instead go to sites were you can pay for such a service.
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07-29-2006, 05:25 AM
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Join Date: 04-12-06
Location: QBC Land
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Hi PaulX,
I have a question for you. My company site is listed in Maryland. Does it qualify for a listing in Restoration since besides doing Water Damages we do other forms of Cleaning, Restoration and Repairs such as Hardwood, Decks, VCT Tiles, Carpet. If so can you add it. Thanks.
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07-29-2006, 06:19 AM
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Hi, let me first state that what I write here is only my personal opinion.
As many other sites your site could be listed in both a Regional and a topical category. Within topical you should try to find the one category that spans all of your activities. If lisatable under Restoration is should go in the Water Damage subcategory. But this seems not the most appropriate category to me as restaration is just a part of your business (and to me it seems not to be the biggest part). If I had to suggest the site I would go for http://dmoz.org/Business/Textiles_an...tiles/Carpets/ . I can see that some reorganisation is taking place in Carpets. There is no Cleaning subcat yet but with enough sites one might be created. If you suggest several other sites which would fit under Cleaning it might get created.
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07-29-2006, 06:31 AM
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#29 (permalink)
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Join Date: 04-12-06
Location: QBC Land
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Thanks for the reply Paul.
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But this seems not the most appropriate category to me as restaration is just a part of your business (and to me it seems not to be the biggest part).
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To fully understand the Restoration and Cleaning Business, when we clean a Deck for example we Power Wash it replace an Old Wood Flooring or Nail in some woods Staining it for to have a natural beauty before applying weather sealant protection. This applies as well to Hardwood floors when some homeowners has paints or carpets on top of hardwood and want to revive their hardwood floors. Restoring it to its former state would require stripping paints, removing tack strips revive old wood damage due to water spills on carpets which has damage the wood itself, sanding and refinishing, applying a sealant then a polyurethane or water based finished. This would restoreits natural state. Same applies to others.
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07-29-2006, 06:39 AM
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Join Date: 04-12-06
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But if it is cleaning sub cat it would do to. Basically I think it is Restoration since we Clean and Restore Floors to its former state.
As for other Cleaners I have a lot of Floor Cleaners under our organization which have informative sites. Unfortunately before I was removed I applied to a category and was declined by Melody Vargas. Don't know why ? Just don't want to argue with her I think she knows best than me on Floor Maintenance.  But I can work with an editor there if he can come here and can give their URL's to be listed. This is an approved worldwide organization and is conducting training and seminars for cleaners and restoration services.
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07-29-2006, 11:24 PM
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#31 (permalink)
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Join Date: 07-29-06
Posts: 68
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Do you people think that submitting my website once a month is to much ?
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07-29-2006, 11:31 PM
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Join Date: 02-16-06
Location: Evansville, IN
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Originally Posted by SaltLampKing
Do you people think that submitting my website once a month is to much ?
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The same website over and over? If so, then yes. I cannot think of one reason why you would need to submit that often and you are probably marked as spamming the directory.
Let it go for 6 months to a year and try again. 
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07-29-2006, 11:34 PM
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Join Date: 07-29-06
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Spamming for submitting once a month ?
Im not sending it there once a day... my reason was there is no editor in the category I submit to and since the editors aren't getting paid I feel like they might be getting lazy
Either way,,,, thanks for the advice cld.
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07-29-2006, 11:56 PM
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#34 (permalink)
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Join Date: 05-05-06
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Originally Posted by SaltLampKing
Do you people think that submitting my website once a month is to much ?
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yes, way to much
see my posting in item #24
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07-30-2006, 06:20 AM
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Join Date: 07-29-06
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I have tried submitting to DMOZ a couple of times, with no sucess!
The last time I sent a small message to the editor of the category to see if there was anything I could change on my site to increase the chances of being listed. The editor didn't even reply and my site was not listed!
This is most annoying as other sites that are similar to mine but not as good (IMHO  ) are listed.
I have given up now 
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07-30-2006, 06:49 AM
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#36 (permalink)
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Join Date: 05-05-06
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DMOZ editors are advised not to answer emails. A lot of very bad experiences in the past is the reason that editors are given this advice.
From our experience also there is almost never a possibility to change a site from not listable to listable. You have either unique content or you don't. Read the DMOZ guidelines and you will know if your site is listable.
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and my site was not listed!
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Wouldn't it be very unfair to list a site just because the owner emailed an editor. Can you imagine how many emails we would get if we would do so.
As with all other sites: suggest your sites ONCE to the ONE best category.
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07-30-2006, 01:26 PM
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#37 (permalink)
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Join Date: 01-08-06
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Originally Posted by cldnails
My latest problem with being listed in the DMOZ is that one of the editors, in a category my site would be listed in, is stealing my content. He was nice enough to get all his sites listed in the category, but not mine. The main reason, he 'was' using my RSS feed to fill his site with content.
I've made two abuse reports....but I've seen nothing come of it yet. I'm almost wondering who the abuse reports go to, the editor of that category maybe. In which case, it's falling on deaf ears.
My only concern is that my site will be penalized for the duplicate content and not his. 
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DMCA him 
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07-30-2006, 01:37 PM
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#38 (permalink)
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Member
Join Date: 07-29-06
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Originally Posted by PaulX
DMOZ editors are advised not to answer emails. A lot of very bad experiences in the past is the reason that editors are given this advice.
From our experience also there is almost never a possibility to change a site from not listable to listable. You have either unique content or you don't. Read the DMOZ guidelines and you will know if your site is listable.
Wouldn't it be very unfair to list a site just because the owner emailed an editor. Can you imagine how many emails we would get if we would do so.
As with all other sites: suggest your sites ONCE to the ONE best category.
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My site is full of original content!
Other similar sites to mine are listed and every page on their sites is full of affiliate links and banners, mine just uses adsense and looks a lot less cluttered!
Perhaps the editors at DMOZ have something to do with the sites that I am competing against 
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07-30-2006, 09:20 PM
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