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Old 07-22-2007, 06:34 AM   #41 (permalink)
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No, not all, just the ones I know of. I'd love to know which Indian submission services practice better submission tactics.
I agree with you John.
I am from India and I used to provide submissions services -no companies --but individually.

But it used to take me 2/3 days to properly submit to only 125 high quality directories that approved 50%+ submissions quickly--.

But -those India submission companies --who advertise manual submissions for cheap rates SUCKS. Most of them --use automated softwares-- otherwise how could they submit to hundreds of directories within short time? Are they Magicians? HELL- NO.

So I had to leave the field --and become a directory owner myself as I personally hate automated submitting softwares.

I started a Free directory --and had every intention to keep it free-- listing quality websites. But oneday --when I was approving links - I noticed that I received 12 submissions from same IP using different e-mail IDs --within 5 mins --which is not possible manually. Any member reading this post might verify what I am saying --by trying to submit a site to 50 directories --by using only Roboform/Firefox Form filler --and how long it takes.

I banned the IP --then and there --and `immediately turned the directory into a paid one.
That is how these services do their service.

But that does not make all the submission companies bad. But genuine service providers are rare.

So John is 100% correct.
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:49 AM   #42 (permalink)
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I agree with you John.
I am from India and I used to provide submissions services -no companies --but individually.

But it used to take me 2/3 days to properly submit to only 125 high quality directories that approved 50%+ submissions quickly--.
That's a good estimate of the time it should take to do the job manually, even using form-filler plugins. So if you're considering paying someone to do this, ask yourself if the rate comes near a living wage for the kind of hours required, (and remember that wages are not the only expenses for your submitter). If they don't, steer clear.
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That's a good estimate of the time it should take to do the job manually, even using form-filler plugins. So if you're considering paying someone to do this, ask yourself if the rate comes near a living wage for the kind of hours required, (and remember that wages are not the only expenses for your submitter). If they don't, steer clear.
Lol mate-- I mentioned on my post that - I left the job long-time back First thing-- it is impossible to compete on rates with these companies --. And most webmasters go for cheap--rather than quality.

I understand that -it is not a field for me -as I can't compromise on quality. So bye-bye -directory submission.
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Nice topic. Have several directories and sometimes just cannot figure what the submitters are thinking in what and where they submit. Had many similar suspicions, but was never sure. Helped to clarify some of the strange behavior I have to sort through.
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i think sometimes its still worth paying 50$ to one of these companies and have them submit your site to thousands of directories, i mean at least 20 or 30 of them will get listed and its worth that price as it still takes time to submit one by one, or am i wrong?
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i think sometimes its still worth paying 50$ to one of these companies and have them submit your site to thousands of directories, i mean at least 20 or 30 of them will get listed and its worth that price as it still takes time to submit one by one, or am i wrong?
I'd rather have them submitted each with a unique description and anchor to get the most value out of it.
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Actually I am the first directory submission company to offer such a service - I can submit to up to 2000 directories using a unique description each time - the problem is its not dirt cheap like those indian submission companies (who often use software which bypasses capcha and they manipulate the php script as well as using a handful of descriptions - the result is few aceptances and the links that are accepted are worthless anyway because of repeat content)

Also I research keywords and write all the descriptions, this takes about 13 hoursand results in unique descriptions of between 200 to 300 characters long.

For directory submissions, even getting the time down due to using a web browser add on which loads the directories one at a time, it still takes 17 hours per 1000 directories, because I do it properly.

However. I doubt anyone will buy, because they are all so used to these cheap services. Yes, people are happier to pay $30 for a service that doesnt work, and hope and pray they get some links out of it, the truth is to submit to directories properly takes time effort and hard work

So its 30 hours non stop work in total - if I did it for $40 I'd be mad !

I've yet to decide a price, what price do you think this kind of service should be ?
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I can understand John, you are disappointed but next time if you use directory submission service from any company in the world, make sure you give your email id and tell them straightly to use different anchor text.

This will not make you disappointed and you will be satisfied with the service
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Well then pay after service

Hi,

I tend to buy my SEO services from freelancers on Guru. I put my rules & ensure I will not be disappointed if the rules follow. Then let the providers bid. I choose a descent bidder with a descent price. They don't get paid till they deliver within the guide lines . so I don't have to blow my money. Lol Yeah I have moved as well to a directory owner. [removed]
I hope this tip help.
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