Need help with picking directory auto submission tool

[jeffwend]

I tried the trial version of directory-dominator. It is the fastest and easiest of the free trials that I have found. I am considering buying the full package but I wonder if a majority of the 600+ directories it offers are free, reciprocal or paid.

Does anyone else have this software? Or can you recommend a different tool?

thanks

[Shawn]

A good directory will include a captcha on it's submit forms so it won't get bombarded with thousands of automated submissions. So the only ones it would probably work on are ones you may not want anyway..

[jeffwend]

This software automates everything except a few parts. You still have to choose the category, and you still have to put in security code if one is asked.

[Scorpion]

Instead of auto-submissions, you can use InFormEnter with FireFox browser.

[chane]

I would never suggest any kind of auto-submitting your sites to directories or search engines. Five years ago, I would have but, that kind of SEO is dead in my opinion. It's not an effective way to get important IBL's and it can actually hurt your sites more than help them.

[Richie_Ni]

They are crap!
I would recommend hire some submitters and they can do it for you in a nice way.

[jumpenjuhosaphat]

A good directory submitter that I have been known to use is digixmas. It is similar to the one you describe. The included directories are mostly low quality, but it gives you the option of submitting to your own custom list of directories, so in that it is pretty good. It cost $10 for a single site license or $50 for unlimited sites.

Out of curiosity, why do some people consider semi-automated directory submitters bad? What is bad about using them?

[jeffwend]

Originally Posted by jumpenjuhosaphat

A good directory submitter that I have been known to use is digixmas. It is similar to the one you describe. The included directories are mostly low quality, but it gives you the option of submitting to your own custom list of directories, so in that it is pretty good. It cost $10 for a single site license or $50 for unlimited sites.

Out of curiosity, why do some people consider semi-automated directory submitters bad? What is bad about using them?

I think that I am going to buy into this one I was talking about. It also allows you to customize your own directories to the list. This way, it will be possible to make a list of all PR ranked and free directories.

We currently own about 70 websites, most of them need lots of love. But it seems to me that this software will be a good way to get some links to the dead ones to at least start getting a little adsense and affiliate sales.

I also run ultrabookmarker 24/7 and that seems to help with traffic on the sites that we do nothing else with.

[sniperhiga]

Originally Posted by jeffwend

I tried the trial version of directory-dominator. It is the fastest and easiest of the free trials that I have found. I am considering buying the full package but I wonder if a majority of the 600+ directories it offers are free, reciprocal or paid.

Does anyone else have this software? Or can you recommend a different tool?

thanks

Put your lazy a.. in the chair and spend week to submit by hand. People like you spam directory webmasters and make heir life hard.
Only bacause you... directory owners close their free directories and switch to paid. I closed 2 free directories because automatic spam.

[sniperhiga]

Originally Posted by jeffwend

We currently own about 70 websites, most of them need lots of love. .

Good SEO specialist can promote 100 websites by himself without using any software.

[jumpenjuhosaphat]

I guess I never considered it spam. I submit the same information using the submitter that I submit when I submit by hand, only it knocks about 10 or 12 hours off of the task. I don't think that I would consider it lazy either ....I just would rather spend that time doing other webmaster tasks, like building relevant links and branding.

For directory owners that don't want to allow for semi-automated submissions, on top of captcha, you should put an off the wall question in the form that most other directories don't ask. If the question isn't answered, trash the submission. Asking a question like what color is the sky on Mars. Directory submitters are effective because of the predictability of directories, if you break that mold, you would be effective at dis-allowing semi-automated submissions.

[jeffwend]

I think I am going to leave this forum. Good luck to those of you who are cool and are willing to share and good luck to those of you who are negative and need a hug.

[jumpenjuhosaphat]

LOL, sorry...You shouldn't leave because someone has a view that differs from yours. In fact, most of what sniperhiga has to say is quite positive and very helpful, perhaps you need a hug?

[sniperhiga]

Ok, positive thing i can say.... Directories submission is good but think this way. More than 95% free directories can give you pr0 link and pages not even indexed by Google. Once directory reached pr4-5, they delete all links and switch to paid. Also, there are bunch companies who buy directories once they reached pr2-3 or Alexa top 100 000 traffic. In this case... the same thing... They delete all links and add only links they want promoting sites or they do $500-1000 promotion to create better pagerank and approve only paid submissions.
If you submitted to 500-1000 directories, your site will be on top of search engines... but later you just loosing your backlinks.... slowly, little by little you loose 2-3 links a day. For MSN you loose 5-10 links a day (because they count every link even the same domain and on PHP directories your site listed on 3-4 pages at least such as "sort by PR" page, "sort by clicks" page, "sort by day added" page.
It will be very hard to keep your positions, moreover, Google don't really like sites who loose backlinks. Google will think that you are buying links for month-year, or you spam and site owners delete your links when they discover them. Google trust sites if they see that they have old backlinks and never loose them.
For website owners with more than 20 sites i will suggest to...
Build 3 way, 5 way, 10 way backlinks. It is a great deal for you and website owners. Add directory for each site, wait for the next Google update to get at least pr1-2 for directory pages and after... suggest people to link 5 sites for link from 10 your sites etc...
Also, don't waste your time adding in millions directories. Pick free directories from www.DirectoryCritic.com with the best webmasters reviews and add site only in this directories.
Promote 3-5 sites really heavy and the rest of them add in the same places where you sucsessfully added your link.
PM webmsters in forums to exchange links, don't write e-mails. PM in forums... way better chance to find really good partners!
Suggest webmasters to link their INTERNAL pages from your site if they link bunch your sites.
Hire SEO specialist or coordinator who can suggest you lot of good things.
Add your sites to www.Dollarlinking.com For $1 they give you pr5 link and it will cost you $70 to list all your sites.
PR5 link worth like 2000-3000 pr0 backlinks.

[sniperhiga]

I know some sites with only 30-40 backlinks and they have huge traffic and great google positions.
Not ammount of links.... QUALITY!
Some webmaster just wrote me a letter to help with his website.... guess what. He build links from more than 1000 domain names in past year and his SERPS still really bad and he got 0 traffic. I looked throught and discovered that all his backlinks pr0-2. I told him.... "Dude, your website awesome and you did great SEO, just find 10-15 pr 4-5 links and your positions will jump like crazy"

[ilu]

I would recommend Informenter Firefox extension - Its semi-automated tool in one sense and manual in other..

[Gannyaa]

Manual submission is the way to go....

sniperhiga I like your assisted manual submission page on the Manhatten Page. The cookies don't work though

for me... I found Info Vilesilencer : The original Free Directory List very useful.

[noob_0001]

Get the firefox extension (InFormEnter) and use the Directory Critic and Info Vilesilencer sites to get good sites for promotion of your websites. The Info Vilesilencer site has a nice spreadsheet that you can download. Makes it nice for keeping track of what you are doing. It also has a forum where you can findout about sites before hey are published. Directory Critic allows you to track your submissions on their site. You can see which sites you have submitted to. Both are very nice sites. It is also sortable by pr, submission date to the list.

[LazySEO]

As long as you're still entering the same information in your auto-submitter, you'll have the same results as you would if you submitted manually (except for captchas & such, of course).

From my experience, where people get in trouble is when they use auto-submission tools to submit the same site over & over again or submit every single page from their site. Auto-submitters are just tools, like anything else. If used correctly and not abused, they can save quite a bit of time.

[mmariusel]

You can take a look at Website Submitter ( over 2000 directories ). The thread here in v7n is located here.

Check a video demo here.