How Can We Improve the Umdum Directory?

LorenBaker · 03-29-2007, 09:02 PM

Umdum has been in existence for almost a year now and over the course of the past 10 months or so, we’ve received a lot of feedback from Umdum customers.

Our goal is to maintain a quality web directory (hence PR 6) which offers value to both the searcher and the sites which list themselves within Umdum. We feel that with a successful launch, top notch design, and editorial guidelines which have resulted in us denying 15% of the sites which were not fit for a quality web directory, we are coming close to achieving this goal.

Now, building up to the one year milestone, I’d like to ask v7n members two questions;

1. What do you consider a quality web directory?
2. What changes would you make to better Umdum.com?

Be honest, be critical, be yourself.

John Scott · 03-29-2007, 09:21 PM

I think it would look a whole lot better if there was a home page link to v7n.

Redfly · 03-29-2007, 09:43 PM

Well, for a start you could put some contact information somewhere.

I am REALLY unhappy with that directory as there is a listing I paid for a long time back (Cannot find the receipt) and it is incorrect. I searched my backside off trying to get a contact email address so I could have it changed. No reply from the Yahoo address in the whois, but a CUSTOMER shouldn't have to go searching whois information.

Sorry to bring it up here, but you did ask how to make it better.

John Scott · 03-29-2007, 10:22 PM

I'm sure Loren would be happy to fix the listing if you PM him the info.

janhvizdak · 03-30-2007, 03:18 AM

Umdum directory doesn't accept quality sites, so what else to improve? Sites which are already listed in dmoz aren't accepted by Umdum.

John Scott · 03-30-2007, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by janhvizdak

Umdum directory doesn't accept quality sites, so what else to improve? Sites which are already listed in dmoz aren't accepted by Umdum.

Who gave you that idea?

janhvizdak · 03-30-2007, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by John Scott

Who gave you that idea?

I gave that idea myself. Just check dmoz for my site, you'll see two listings. I submitted my site into Umdum twice or maybe more and it didn't get approved EVER.

John Scott · 03-30-2007, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by janhvizdak

I gave that idea myself. Just check dmoz for my site, you'll see two listings. I submitted my site into Umdum twice or maybe more and it didn't get approved EVER.

Did you pay the review fee?

janhvizdak · 03-30-2007, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by John Scott

Did you pay the review fee?

It was free when I submitted it for the first time... at least it offered free submission.

Cantufind · 03-30-2007, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by janhvizdak

I gave that idea myself. Just check dmoz for my site, you'll see two listings. I submitted my site into Umdum twice or maybe more and it didn't get approved EVER.

Hmmm, sounds a bit fishy to me.

Did you follow the rules of submission? Did you submit to the correct category, for example you call your site a directory but it didn't look like one to me if I'm being honest.

Also people really do need to remember that no directory HAS to accept you just because you submit and you must never take it for granted you are going to be listed. It certainly isnt a wise thing either to go onto forums whining about this either as that wont endear you to the directory owners.

Write to them politely asking why not, I'm sure you'll get a good answer, or if you want to get listed in there that badly simply pay for inclusion although I'm not sure that's guaranteed?

John Scott · 03-30-2007, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by janhvizdak

It was free when I submitted it for the first time... at least it offered free submission.

There was a non-profit submission option. Are you a non-profit organization?

janhvizdak · 03-30-2007, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by John Scott

There was a non-profit submission option. Are you a non-profit organization?

First, I won't resubmit into UMDUM and I will not contact anyone from that directory. Reasons are simple; It's paid nowadays. Moreover, they didn't approve my site which was submitted into the most appropriate category in my opinion... the deepest possible (following the categories which I'm listed in DMOZ).

RE your second question: Am I non-profit? Hm, I'm not. However, I support various animals organisations in my country based on income which is generated from my aqua-fish.net. So basically, I do profit. But I use those money for good purposes too. Naturally, I use money for personal purposes too. However, if we want to be honest, we must say that various edu domains profit from selling links too. And they're authorities

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BTW, I run my own directory too. It's now of PR3, which isn't much. But it'll be free forever no matter if I get PR5, PR7, PR9 on it as time goes by. Just a thought

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Cantufind · 03-30-2007, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by janhvizdak

...BTW, I run my own directory too. It's now of PR3, which isn't much. But it'll be free forever no matter if I get PR5, PR7, PR9 on it as time goes by. Just a thought

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I wouldn't say that for if you ever do reach the dizzy hights of a high PR and see how much money could be made you'd probalby change your mind. Good luck on your ventures, great reading the info on your site btw.

kevingibbons · 04-01-2007, 11:16 PM

Maybe an additional option for your own business page including a few deeplinks?

Agree about the contact info, I've had the same problem with other directories.

Cantufind · 04-02-2007, 05:33 AM

I ran a check on umdum and despite the PR6 they have, it means absolutely nothing as it hasnt got them listed any higher in the search engines, and they aren't even listed in dmoz, (well I couldn't find them).

You say your not interested in getting listed anyway, you've had your rant so leaving it is the best option, get on and promote your own sites, that will prove far more beneficial that getting listed in an obscure directory even if it does have high PR.

John Scott · 04-02-2007, 05:48 AM

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it means absolutely nothing as it hasnt got them listed any higher in the search engines

You think that PR is just about search engine rankings? And you want to know what means absolutely nothing? Try PR.

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and they aren't even listed in dmoz

That also means absolutely nothing. Is your psychic feeding you this BS, or is some evil demon dwelling in your brain and confusing you? I mean, seriously, DMOZ? in 2007, what does dmoz have to do with anything?

Cantufind · 04-02-2007, 06:04 AM

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You think that PR is just about search engine rankings? And you want to know what means absolutely nothing? Try PR.

Di I say PR was just about search engine rankings John? I agree with you PR means absolutely nothing.

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That also means absolutely nothing. Is your psychic feeding you this BS, or is some evil demon dwelling in your brain and confusing you? I mean, seriously, DMOZ? in 2007, what does dmoz have to do with anything?

I don't use psychics John, I might have some evil demon in my brain though, will book in for a scan.

Dmoz has EVERYTHING to do with the thread which is what I was responding to.

janhvizdak mentioned he was listed in dmoz but ranted that he wasnt listed in umdum, I made a point that umdum wasnt listed in dmoz, I never made any reference to the fact I like or dislike Dmoz, even though they still are the most searched directory on the planet regardless of how we all may think of it.

Did I say anthing bad here?