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07-10-2007, 05:11 PM
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I have added lots of sites to DMOZ within 24 hrs. When I was an editor I used to log in daily and check new submissions to my categories. If a new one looked promising, I would review and add. If it did not look promising, I would just leave it to sit in the pool of sites to review when I was in the mood. I would then go and search Google for more promising sites to add that were not submitted - it was much more satisfying use of my time.
How does a site look promising to get mt attention? The title and description was guideline compliant and contained no hype.
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07-10-2007, 05:12 PM
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#42 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by coolguy27
The DMOZ is one affiliated directory of Google. So follow the Googles Guidelines and maybe DMOZ will accept your site...
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Where did you get this rubiish from? Listing in DMOZ has nothing what so ever to do with Google's guidelines!!!
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07-16-2007, 04:44 AM
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#43 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by GreekCrusader
... listed in DMOZ within 24 hours?
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i waiting several month 
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07-16-2007, 06:22 AM
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#44 (permalink)
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I have submitted my site in dmoz for about 5 months! and still no list from them! since dmoz have a big effect in google!that why you can't get listed to them fast or maybe lots of backlogs!
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07-20-2007, 08:09 AM
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#45 (permalink)
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I have been waiting for nearly a year now to get into DMOZ and still not listed.
friend of mine listed there site in the same catorgories as mine with similar sort of content and they got listed in just over 2 months,
I just don't understand why.
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07-20-2007, 12:06 PM
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#46 (permalink)
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Originally posted by chloew:
I have been waiting for nearly a year now to get into DMOZ and still not listed.
friend of mine listed there site in the same catorgories as mine with similar sort of content and they got listed in just over 2 months,
I just don't understand why.
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Looks like too many questions "WHY", and too little answers. Sounds like no one knows the exact answer why DMOZ is so unfriendly.
So if you have a time and you are lucky to be rewied by friendly person, then keep submitting to DMOZ, if you don't have it, then skip it.
Have a great day,
Peter
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07-20-2007, 12:19 PM
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#47 (permalink)
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who is a DMOZ admin?
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07-20-2007, 12:58 PM
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#48 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Birdie
I would just leave it to sit in the pool of sites to review when I was in the mood. I would then go and search Google for more promising sites to add that were not submitted - it was much more satisfying use of my time.
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So that's why it takes so long, and irrelevant. What's the point of even submitting if the editors are outside the system including websites that haven't even applied?
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07-21-2007, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by WagerX
What's the point of even submitting if the editors are outside the system including websites that haven't even applied?
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Because you totaly misunderstand the purpose of DMOZ possibilty to suggest a site.
First notice that DMOZ calls this "suggest a site" not "submit a site". If you want to use the word submit the most appropriate would be "submit a suggestion".
This is a very big and important difference.
With "submit a site" you would be telling DMOZ "here is my site please review it". But that is not the intention of DMOZ.
What they intend is: "he, I found a nice site maybe this is something DMOZ might be interested in".
The task of DMOZ editors is to build the directory. It is totaly irrelevant where they find the sites to add to the directory. They can use the pool of suggested sites or they can look in many other places. With some 10.000 new suggestions each day you realy need to stand out in that massive pool to be noticed. How can you be noticed? Very easy. Write a title and description that are compliant with DMOZ guidelines. These suggestions will be looked at much faster by many editors. If you didn't bother to follow these guidelines you might easely wait several years before an editor even looks at the suggestion. Why would the editors bother looking at a suggestion if the owner (yes, most of the time the owner or developer of a site will suggest it) didn't bother enough to make it a quality suggestion.
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07-21-2007, 03:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WagerX
So that's why it takes so long, and irrelevant. What's the point of even submitting if the editors are outside the system including websites that haven't even applied?
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Plenty of other directories work that way and provide submission processing services. DMOZ dosen't. DMOZ is wanting to build a directory of useful resources and NOT build a directory of submitted sites. The most useful sites are NEVER submitted. DMOZ is not there for the webmaster to 'get listed'.
If you don't want to suggest your site, thats fine. If you do, you just increase the chances of an editor seeing it. If you don't suggest it, and if the site is any good and has unique content, then assume an editor might eventually find it and list it anyway (more than half the sites are listed this way).
Last edited by Birdie : 07-21-2007 at 03:53 PM.
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07-21-2007, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulX
If you didn't bother to follow these guidelines you might easely wait several years before an editor even looks at the suggestion. Why would the editors bother looking at a suggestion if the owner (yes, most of the time the owner or developer of a site will suggest it) didn't bother enough to make it a quality suggestion.
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Or put another way, how do you think DMOZ or any other directory should treat those that deliberatly flout the guidelines?
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07-21-2007, 03:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chloew
I have been waiting for nearly a year now to get into DMOZ and still not listed.
friend of mine listed there site in the same catorgories as mine with similar sort of content and they got listed in just over 2 months,
I just don't understand why.
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You have answered your own question: "friend of mine listed there site in the same catorgories as mine with similar sort of content" - DMOZ wants sites with unique content. Its not going to list sites with similar content. DMOZ is not a listing service.
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07-21-2007, 03:48 PM
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#53 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by peterko
So if you have a time and you are lucky to be rewied by friendly person, then keep submitting to DMOZ, if you don't have it, then skip it.
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Really really really really bad advice. There is NEVER a need to suggest more than once.
At worst, repeated suggested will get you banned as spammer
At best, the re-suggestion just overwrites the previous one with the new date and moves your site to the back of the pile if the editors chooses to use the pool of suggested sites and sorts them by date.
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07-21-2007, 07:53 PM
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#54 (permalink)
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Interesting thread. I have one DMOZ listing. Did not know at the time of submission all of the controversy. First site and quite ugly. Just submitted a content authoritative site and was approve in several months.
I have read the submission guidelines and think it is what it is. Submit a quality site, whatever the qualifier, you will get added. All of the comments of corrupt editors and such, please, just put yourself out of misery and admit, not good enough. It is not personal.
Understand I have many other sites I would not waste the time to submit to DMOZ. I just do not think they will make the grade, so why waste the time?
DMOZ has had many ups and downs. Very hard to run a totally free directory on volunteers. Seems like everyone wants to complain, but few wish to contribute their free time. I have several directories, lot of work. The amount of low quality spammy sites is quite astonishing. It is the quality of original work that is inspiring. Not graphics, flash, generic content. But sites that are written from the heart with conviction and originality.
If your site got approved, give yourself a pat on the back. If not, get over it and move on or do something about it and resubmit. It is their site, their overhead, their rules. Play their game or don't. Some will, some won't, so what, next. The back log is horrendous, tough road to travel.
Just my 2 cents.
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