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09-04-2007, 10:11 PM
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#21 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by eXweso
Whats the use of the indexed pages if they dont show up on the result pages!
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Link popularity.
What do I win?
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09-05-2007, 01:00 AM
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#22 (permalink)
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Oh man -
Sorry to hear this guys,
Some of these directories have real value and the owners work real hard,
I would think this is just normal. So far the only thing that has not happened is the pr update and everything else seems pretty much the same...so the Best solution is to wait for the next update...
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09-05-2007, 05:47 AM
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#23 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by John Scott
Link popularity.
What do I win?
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John, you know the owner of Aviva, what is he saying about all this?
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09-05-2007, 05:50 AM
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#24 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by eXweso
I think google is loosing focus since it has too many things to concentrate on!
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Also they dont have money to handle their growth right?  
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09-05-2007, 06:03 AM
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#25 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by maldives
Also they dont have money to handle their growth right?  
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Google has plenty of money, this is not about Google it is about Aviva. Did they violate Google's Webmaster Guidelines and are now receiving a penalty or is Google systematically devaluing directory listings? If the latter is the case maybe they are only going after directories that charge an annual reoccurring fee. Or is this just a temporary glitch in Google's results?
Last edited by Cornbread; 09-05-2007 at 06:26 AM..
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09-05-2007, 06:58 AM
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#26 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Cornbread
John, you know the owner of Aviva, what is he saying about all this?
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I've been too busy with school to ask him, but I'm sure he'll have something to say sooner or later.
I think it's a glitch. I can't imagine that Google wants to continue with this irrelevancy.
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09-05-2007, 07:42 AM
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#27 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by John Scott
I've been too busy with school to ask him, but I'm sure he'll have something to say sooner or later.
I think it's a glitch. I can't imagine that Google wants to continue with this irrelevancy.
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Really waiting to get a response from John.
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09-05-2007, 10:01 AM
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#28 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by John Scott
Link popularity.
What do I win?
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 Forgot!
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09-05-2007, 12:14 PM
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#29 (permalink)
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Aviva is still AUTHORITY
Alive is still AUTHORITY
I don't believe its a penalty -IMHO just ALGO TESTING . So -it seems just a manual penalty. But its not these sites only-- there are many directories and many other sites facing the same problem - i.e. not ranking for their own titles.
Remember guys?
When V7N became an authority site few months back ( same time with Aviva) , Google was showing sitelinks only for the CAPITALIZED term V7N. All other terms/urls returned normal result.
Now it has changed--
The capitalized V7N term does not show those sitelinks anymore ( atleast on my DC) -- instead it has given a TRUST VOTE to the v7n domain -
Term
URL
So there is nothing to worry-- seems just routine testing of ever evolving algos.
Chillax. 
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09-05-2007, 04:06 PM
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#30 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by WhatiFind
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That's correct, a lot of directories are devaluated. My traffic start to go in the basket.
I am wondering if directories are not good anymore...
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09-05-2007, 04:10 PM
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#31 (permalink)
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oh by the way my directories are not anymore on the first position on the main titles, I don't know where I am now, that's sucks !
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09-05-2007, 05:38 PM
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#32 (permalink)
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emmm
I have been waiting for this too happen for 8 weeks now, finally the cull has begun...
Why is everybody surprised... Matt Cutts gave out the information to directory owners and paid link providers months ago in an article on his blog....
The time has come and relevance is king....
Directories built to drive relevant targetted traffic to websites not pump PR with 0 traffic.
Guess 99% of directories are begining to take a fall....
the magic key you are all looking for is "nofollow" the only problem is that this key is going to make 99% of directories completly irrelevant to customers hence wiping out those PR pumpers...
GAME SET MATCH - BIG G!
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09-05-2007, 05:46 PM
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#33 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by jhnrang
Aviva is still AUTHORITY
Alive is still AUTHORITY
I don't believe its a penalty -IMHO just ALGO TESTING . So -it seems just a manual penalty. But its not these sites only-- there are many directories and many other sites facing the same problem - i.e. not ranking for their own titles.
Remember guys?
When V7N became an authority site few months back ( same time with Aviva) , Google was showing sitelinks only for the CAPITALIZED term V7N. All other terms/urls returned normal result.
Now it has changed--
The capitalized V7N term does not show those sitelinks anymore ( atleast on my DC) -- instead it has given a TRUST VOTE to the v7n domain -
Term
URL
So there is nothing to worry-- seems just routine testing of ever evolving algos.
Chillax. 
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I wish people would quit mis-using those terms. Those are SiteLinks. Nowhere does Google say that the presence of SiteLinks conveys "Authority Status" on a website.
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The links shown below some sites in our search results, called Sitelinks, are meant to help users navigate your site. Our systems analyze the link structure of your site to find shortcuts that will save users time and allow them to quickly find the information they're looking for.
We only show Sitelinks for results when we think they'll be useful to the user. If the structure of your site doesn't allow our algorithms to find good Sitelinks, or we don't think that the Sitelinks for your site are relevant for the user's query, we won't show them.
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I'd say that not ranking for your own name is something to worry about. It certainly doesn't appear to be an award, now does it?
Time to quit mis-using the term "Authority Directory", especially for directories that certainly do appear to be suffering from sort of penalty.
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09-05-2007, 05:58 PM
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#34 (permalink)
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Good point.... how can a directory created in 2005 gain authority rank.... isn`t one of the algo`s domain registry age. Lots of sites with authority rank dont show internal links listed under main url, the point being they dont want you to know what sites have authority....
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09-06-2007, 09:59 AM
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#35 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Media-Master-D
Good point.... how can a directory created in 2005 gain authority rank.... isn`t one of the algo`s domain registry age. Lots of sites with authority rank dont show internal links listed under main url, the point being they dont want you to know what sites have authority....
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That's correct. It's a complete incorrect use of the term, mainly for marketing purposes. Even if Google did ordain a website to be an "authority site", they sure wouldn't want that site using the claim as the basis to sell links.
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09-07-2007, 12:17 PM
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Last edited by John Scott; 09-07-2007 at 10:59 PM..
Reason: Link edit
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09-10-2007, 02:09 AM
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#37 (permalink)
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i have seen aviva directory owner stateing on dp that he is happy with google decision but he is sa for those who bought links on his directories so costly, and also directory owners are waiting for altavista or yahoo to start pr updation.
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09-10-2007, 05:52 AM
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#38 (permalink)
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But they haven't "penalized" all paid directories. I wonder how they are choosing which directories to penalize?
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09-10-2007, 06:57 AM
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#39 (permalink)
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But they haven't "penalized" all paid directories.
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Why should they do that ?
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I wonder how they are choosing which directories to penalize?
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A big question but looking at the numbers that have been included in the list mostly have chased the High PR links, bidding directories and sites that did not even bother to list a listing by their own that have hundreds or thousands of blank categories.
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09-10-2007, 07:21 AM
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#40 (permalink)
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Ya its just a glitch.
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